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Timing Marks on Super C Farmall

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Scott Swanson

09-27-2004 09:28:48




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Where are the marks? I followed the book but can only see the clutch guts and the outer rim of the flywheel throught the lower inspection hole. I messed around with the distributor and the engine backfires and almost breaks my arms. Battery will not crank it.

What is wrong with this picture. I get the tractor to run with a magneto but when I switch to a Distributor it backfires. How do you set up a Distributor on these red monsters without getting maimed or killed?

Thanks!!!

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Wayne Swenson

09-27-2004 21:31:40




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 Re: Timing Marks on Super C Farmall in reply to Scott Swanson, 09-27-2004 09:28:48  
The mark is a vertical line pressed into the tin plate forward of the flywheel. Take a good light and have someone (with the switch off) SLOWLY crank the engine to locate TDC.
As Bob said, find #1 compression and then you will easily locate the timing mark.



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CNKS

09-27-2004 18:25:55




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 Re: Timing Marks on Super C Farmall in reply to Scott Swanson, 09-27-2004 09:28:48  
The mark is on the flywheel. It is very small. To find mine I had to lay on my back and clean off the flywheel as I turned it with a screwdriver in the ring gear. The other mark is a raised mark on the cast piece behind the oil pan. There really is no difference in timing for a distributer or magneto, except the distributer does not trip. Timed with #1 on TDC with rotor pointing to #1 on the cap.

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Bob

09-27-2004 10:02:37




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 Re: Timing Marks on Super C Farmall in reply to Scott Swanson, 09-27-2004 09:28:48  
I'm not sure, but if the engine has been replaced with a certain stationary power unit engine, there may be a timing pointer at the front of the engine, and a mark on the front pulley, or you just may not be seeing the flywheel marks.

However, even without visible timing marks, initial timing is easy to set. If you're hand cranking it, you do not want spark before TDC. Certainly, not more than a few degrees before TDC, in any case.

Keep the ignition switch "OFF". Remove the #1 spark plug. Crank it over until you can feel compression beginning to build, as you hold you finger OVER the spark plug hole. This indicates it is coming up on TDC of the firing stroke.

Disconnect the primary distributor lead from the coil and hook a battery powered test light or an ohmmeter to the primary terminal on the distributor and ground. Either one will show continuity, because the breaker points are closed.

Use a plastic straw or similar probe stuck down the sparkplug hole, which will rise as the piston comes up to TDC. The test light should go out (or the ohmmeter will read "infinity') just as the piston reaches TDC, if the points are opening at the correct time. Now that you've got the engine at TDC, take another look for the timing marks, now that you know where the should be. Make your own TDC mark, if necessary, for next time.

If the points are opening before that, correct the position of the distributor, and try again until you have the points opening reliably at the TDC point.

I'm not sure what the spec. is, perhaps 4 degrees BTDC, but if you're going to hand-crank it, TDC is safer.

Disconnect your test light or ohmmeter, reconnect the primary lead to the coil, and you should be all set.

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Scott Swanson

09-27-2004 10:13:55




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 Re: Timing Marks on Super C Farmall in reply to Bob, 09-27-2004 10:02:37  
Bob,

I pulled the Distributor long ago and the gear fell on the floor. The gear is not timed to the distributor. I am unsure of how to make sure it is right. I guess getting smacked by the backfiring crank handle made me walk away. I have 7 complete working distrubutors and 4 complete working magnetos. I just need to learn how to insert the timing gear in the dog gear and then time it. I get the jist of it. Maybe I am just gun er tractor shy.

I need to cool down though. These things are not that complicated. They just hurt every now and then.

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Bob

09-27-2004 10:20:07




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 Re: Timing Marks on Super C Farmall in reply to Scott Swanson, 09-27-2004 10:13:55  
It really doesn't matter in what position you install the gear, as long as you have the points just open at #1 TDC (firing stoke), note where the distributor rotor is pointing, install #1 spark plug wire there, and continue to install the spark plug wires in the order that the distributor turns, being carefull to note firing order.



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