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ericlb

10-28-2004 14:45:07

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hi all, i need to solve a little problem, which i can work into a reason to get another old tractor, i need to mow a old growth orchard, the grass gets tuff and long, my jd is too large to fit under the trees, my naa ford isnt maneuverable enough, and its destroying my 16 horse rubber band drive lawn tractor, now would i like a cub with a belly mower, an A with the same, or a b?[ im sort of afraid of a bn] the orchard is about 3 acres, what do y'all think?

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James Williams

10-29-2004 08:59:06

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

Please dont laught or get mad,but look for a high hp.strong built O turn mower,they will amaze you

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Brian in NY

10-29-2004 06:03:21

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

I think if your NAA is not manueverable enough, you might not find a A or 100 series any more maneuverable. I would think that a narrow front like a B would really fit the bill for ya. It is so much more tractor than the cub it is not funny. You could actually use it for other duties too, where with the cub the usage is more limited. Now don't get me wrong....the Cub is a nice tractor and I think that would be a close second to the B. A B will not really tip over that much easier than an A if you use it correctly. An orchard should be pretty flat anyway I would think. What you DON'T want is an A with a narrow front stuck on it. Those things are dangerous! The other option is to get a pull behind self powered mower to tow behind an ATV. Those are real maneuverable and the good ones work great. Just my $.02.

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LWWinPA

10-29-2004 05:15:35

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

is the land flat or on a hill side that might deside what you want to use cub-lowboys are great on hillsides B and BN are not A's are not to bad on hill if you sped the tires out on both axles

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Mac

10-29-2004 04:41:35

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

Orchard mower would be less to maintain and much more powerful and efficient. I guess you just want another tractor to wrench on though.

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Stan(PA)

10-28-2004 21:30:06

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

The Cub will cut beautifully, but watch how tall you let the grass get. My A will cut anything, but if the grass gets much over a foot tall, the belly mower starts to "climb" over the grass. I use the brush hog in the spring, then keep it down with the belly mower on the A. Also use a Massey Pony with a 5 foot belly mower, and it does a beautiful job. It"s about the same HP as the cub. If you don"t let the grass get too tall, you"ll love the Cub (especially Lo Boy)

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lee

10-28-2004 15:59:32

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

the cub's got less power than your 16 horse rubber band drive unit.

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evielboweviel

10-28-2004 17:07:23

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to lee, 10-28-2004 15:59:32

a cub will drag around any 16 horsepower rubber band mower JOHN DEERE green or otherwise any day of the week. 9.5 horsepower with 45FTLBS of TORQUE this gets the job done.

A cub as shown in the pic or one with a 42" belly mower would do a fine job in that orchard
Ron

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lee

10-28-2004 17:52:55

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to evielboweviel, 10-28-2004 17:07:23

I had one and it was Ok but under powered. Wide open to run the belly mount flail mower it was traveling too fast and bogged down in taller grass. I sold it.

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26RED

10-28-2004 15:29:24

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 14:45:07

How about a Cub-lowboy? You could add a Farmall 100,130,or 140 to your list too.

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Geoff NY

10-28-2004 15:59:16

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to 26RED, 10-28-2004 15:29:24

If Steve is offering up that Lo boy, I"d grab it and run. The W-4 would be my favorite, but you said an NAA is not manuverableenough and they are about as twisty as a snake, so I think you woul want a small rig that turns on a dime. Have you considered an offset flail mower on the Ford?

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26Red

10-28-2004 15:34:29

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to 26RED, 10-28-2004 15:29:24

OR...what about a W-4 with a belly mower or pully behind mower? Same height as a A or B...

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ericlb

10-28-2004 16:30:57

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to 26Red, 10-28-2004 15:34:29

thanks for your answers, both tractors look good, i think the belly mower is the best solution, the ford will of course piviot nearly with 1 wheel in the same place with 1 brake locked, the problem there is with the brushhog behind it swinging the opisit way, it can get interesting if the timing of the turn isnt just perfect,[yes it does have a orc on the pto shaft] i also didn't know the cubs were so low on power, glad i found that out as i had 1 spotted, thanks for the help, ericlb

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matthew h

10-28-2004 18:33:53

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Re: which one would you get? in reply to ericlb, 10-28-2004 16:30:57

ericlb, not trying to talk you into getting a cub, but don"t worry to much about it technically having less hp than your riding mower. I have one and an eighteen hp "garden tractor" with mower deck. The cub has has an IH belly mower. The cub is as fast if not faster and eats up much thicker stuff without grumbling and much easier on the operator when you dealing with something rougher than the front lawn.
I think it has as much to do with the equipment"s ability to get that horsepower to the ground/grass as it does engine horsepower. On the cub, I don"t have to worry about belts slipping (although the belly mower is belt drive), deck getting clogged up, or getting stuck in the least litte hole. The cub is also designed to operate at near maximum hp all day long. Try that with most of these air cooled engines and it won"t be with you long.
But make no mistake about it, a cub is a small tractor with limits and an A, B, 100, 130, 140 is much more tractor.
I"ll give you one more option since you stayed with me this long. I have seen belly mowers for the little Fords like the NAA, I think made by Woods. I think that would be a great setup for medium sized jobs.
good luck

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