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Mike Jorgensen

03-14-2005 12:41:13

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My dad has recently split his M to install a new clutch, pressure plate and throw out bearing. He also had the flywheel turned. He installed all the new parts and reassembled it. Once assembled, the clutch pedal feels like it has no resistance, like it isn't engaging the clutch. This was his first attemt at a clutch job, is he missing something obvious??

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Mike

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Michael Soldan

03-14-2005 14:47:54

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Mike Jorgensen, 03-14-2005 12:41:13

The guys who said "remove the three retaining bolts" all win a cigar! Mike in Exeter Ontario

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John M

03-14-2005 13:42:29

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Mike Jorgensen, 03-14-2005 12:41:13

Disc in backwards? Is it releasing?

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ih650

03-14-2005 13:36:01

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Mike Jorgensen, 03-14-2005 12:41:13

It should be simple. You can fix it from the bottom. There should 3 bolts comprt\essing the pressure for assembly. Remove the and it will work. I believe they are 3/8 bolts.

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Andy Martin

03-14-2005 12:59:14

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Mike Jorgensen, 03-14-2005 12:41:13

Like missing the throwout bearing?

Assuming you adjusted the linkage to get 1-inch of free play, pull the belly pump and look from below to see where the linkage may not be making contact.

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Mike Jorgensen

03-14-2005 13:19:10

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Andy Martin, 03-14-2005 12:59:14

I wish I knew more, I'm posting this for my Dad because he is computer iliterate. But I do know that he did readjust the likage to get around 1" of play. If you sit on the tractor, when you push the clutch pedal, it goes in about 1", then it has very slight resistance for maybe 3" (guessing), then the pedal won't go any farther. I had read somewhere that there are "shipping bolts" in the pressure plate that need released after installed. Is this correct??

Thanks, Mike

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Andy Martin

03-14-2005 14:19:54

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Mike Jorgensen, 03-14-2005 13:19:10

The post up above refers to the three bolts which hold the pressure plate compressed for installation.

If he failed to take them out you would get the symptom you described. They are around the perimeter of the pressure plate but inboard of the mounting bolts.

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John M

03-14-2005 15:16:59

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Andy Martin, 03-14-2005 14:19:54

Please excuse my ignorance as I have never had to replace a pressure plate on a M,but where the heck are those three bolts suppose to be.I have had clutches out and replaced the disc,but never a pressure plate and I dont recall having to put in or take out three bolts to do it.All I have ever seen to keep the pressure plate toghether were the springs on the fingers.

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Andy Martin

03-15-2005 05:20:25

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to John M, 03-14-2005 15:16:59

There are six bolts which hold the pressure plate to the flywheel. There are open holes also, which seem to not be of any use. If you take out every other one of the six and put them in the open holes, you can screw them into the pressure plate and ithey will hold the pressure plate back against the pressure plate cover plate, keeping the springs compressed while you take the other three bolts out.

Cars and trucks generally don't have these "spring-compression" holes, so you can pull and replace an M pressure plate like you would in a car, but it is convenient to keep the springs compressed help line up everything. It also gives you more room when replacing the clutch without splitting the tractor.

Just like the throwout bearing grease zerk and the pilot bearing grease zerk, these old crude tractors have some features not adopted on the more modern equipment.

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Mike Jorgensen

03-14-2005 14:31:50

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Andy Martin, 03-14-2005 14:19:54

I think this is exactly the problem. I don't beleive he removed these 3 bolts. Thank you guys very much.

Mike

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RustyFarmall

03-14-2005 13:12:05

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Re: M Clutch Problems in reply to Andy Martin, 03-14-2005 12:59:14

Exactly, that clutch will need to be adjusted for proper free travel. All new clutch installations require this.

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