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Installing Wet Sleeve Liners

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Carp

03-31-2005 13:49:06




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When istalling wet sleeves, do you need to freeze the sleeves and should you put anthing on the o-rings to help with the installation. Never done an engine with wet liners before.

Thanks for the help.




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El Toro

04-01-2005 08:08:01




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to Carp, 03-31-2005 13:49:06  
I used what Bob recommended, dish detergent works fine and is recommended in my IH manual. You should not need a hammer to get these sleeves to fully seat in the block. Clean the area where these seals (doughnuts) are installed in the block of any rust or scale. Cover the seals with water after installing the sleeves and check for any leakage. Hal



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Hobo,NC

03-31-2005 17:45:21




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to Carp, 03-31-2005 13:49:06  
Clean the block good at the lower were the sleeve fits. I take the square end of a file and realy clean the grove in the top of the block were then sleeve sits. Prefit the sleeve with out the o-ring it should fall in with no resistence. Install the o-ring I lube with DURA SIL 1000 I git from NAPA its $11 to $15 for a small bottle and the best rubber lube avalible. I use it enny were I need to install o-rings, water hoses, fuel lines on enny rubber part. A bottle will last a DIY a life time. The sleeve shoud go in with out much fource. With DURA sil I kin install'em by hand

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Bob

03-31-2005 16:53:12




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to Carp, 03-31-2005 13:49:06  
Slather up the bottom taper of the sleeves, and the "O" rings with ordinary liquid dish soap (Ivory, or equivalent), and they'll slide in slick'ern snot!

(Just remember to sneak it back into the kitchen before SHE gets home!



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K.B.-826

03-31-2005 16:33:39




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to Carp, 03-31-2005 13:49:06  
John Deere makes a special soap to lubricate the o-rings. Your local dealer should have it on hand, or will be able to get it for you. Before installing the o-rings, test fit each sleeve and measure how far each one sits above the deck of the block, move them around to get as close to the specification in your manual as possible. After you get the sleeves installed, screw some bolts with washers into head bolt holes to hold the sleeves in place as you rotate the engine finishing reassembly.

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janicholson

03-31-2005 14:28:39




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to Carp, 03-31-2005 13:49:06  
No, they go in at room temp. The real issue is whether you are installing a liner in a wet sleeve (not a good idea) or the whole sleeve (probable). If the sleeve is new, make sure that all the preservative is removed from it inside and out. if used, clean it up with 220 si carbide paper on the bottom end where the "O" ring is located. use round the cyl motion so that the microscopic grooves are around the contact area, not up and down. I believe in new "o" rings. I use a silicon based grease (never petroleum) on the "O" ring to facilitate assembly. Be sure to clean all surfaces of the top ledge, and (if used) the ridge on the cyl. An end grain block of hardwood, and a rubber mallet has driven mine home many times. Be sure things are straight, and in they go. JimN

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856 puller

03-31-2005 19:51:27




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 Re: Installing Wet Sleeve Liners in reply to janicholson, 03-31-2005 14:28:39  
after you get the liners in its a good idea to put a bolt and washer in to hold them down when rolling the engine over so they dont pop up and cut a o ring. also i like to put some antifreeze in the block before the pan and head go on just to make sure there is no leaks



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