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M Charging Woes

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Matthew(Mich)

05-13-2005 09:14:01




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I'm working a '48 farmall M with all the original 6 volt electrical componets including lights that work. Generator has been rebuilt and a new voltage regulator installed. The field terminal wire on the generator is connected to the voltage reg terminal not being grounded under the voltage regulator screw. My amp meter doesn't show any movement of the needle on the plus side of zero unless I have the thottle lever in one spot which is mid idle. At that location meter reads +5amps never more. Makes no difference if the switch is in the fast charge or normal charging position. Once I increase or decrease RPM's the needle drops just to zero or slightly past neg zero on the amp meter. Wiring is original and all connections including the ones in the amp meter box. Tractor has always been stored inside of the barn and the electrical connections are pretty clean looking meaning not corrosive. Any idea how to get it to charge other than leaving it at that particular thottle spot location for a while to let it charge?

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PurdueAg

05-13-2005 17:47:14




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 Re: M Charging Woes in reply to Matthew(Mich), 05-13-2005 09:14:01  
I have the EXACT same problem with my H (verbatim). If you figure it out, let me know!



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El Toro

05-13-2005 17:59:49




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 Re: M Charging Woes in reply to PurdueAg, 05-13-2005 17:47:14  
You should make a copy of Bob M's troubleshooting
and a guide to see if all connections are hooked correctly. His troubleshooting flow chart will give you a step by step procedure for finding your charging problem. Hal



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leon worm

05-13-2005 10:49:01




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 Re: M Charging Woes in reply to Matthew(Mich), 05-13-2005 09:14:01  
Matthew,

To confirm you gernerator is functioning properly, and to bypass the regulator, you can ground the field terminal of the regulator to make the generator outputs it"s maximum. When this terminal is grounded and the generator is working properly you should see your ammeter go to approximately 10+ amps. Another suggestion is I beleive the output of the generator can be adjusted by moving one of the brushes on the generator. There should be a screw on the back side of the generator that secures the bruch in place. by loostening this screw slightly you can move the brush position around the armature to make the generator output more or less.

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Bob M

05-13-2005 09:37:33




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 Re: M Charging Woes in reply to Matthew(Mich), 05-13-2005 09:14:01  
Matthew - A couple of thoughts:

1 – If you’ve truly got a voltage regulator and not a cutout installed (a regulator has 4 terminals labeled GEN, BAT, FLD and L), the light switch will have no effect on charging rate. (The L and H light switch positions are both now simply “off” positions for the lights)

2 – 5 amps of charge only at mid-idle is puzzling. It should be closer to 10 – 15 amps from mid-idle to full RPM. A couple of possibilities for this:

It’s wired up wrong. Here’s a link for a diagram how a regulator should be wired up:

Link

If you find it’s wired up OK, then try working your way through the troubleshooting chart here:

Link

It will not correct the problem, but it will help you identify which component is causing the problem.

Good luck!!

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