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K.B.-826

05-24-2005 21:38:37

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Bought a 560 Diesel about a month ago. My first "project tractor". I knew the cylinder head gasket was leaking oil and compression, and it appeared to have oil in the water. Tonight me and a buddy started tearing into it. We quickly realized that it was coming apart way too easy. Fresh Never-Seeze on the manifold hardware, clean gasket surfaces, glow plugs and injectors came right out, ect. This one was just apart. First strange thing- it has three old-style injectors and three late-style style injectors. What do you guys think about that? Lifted the head off, and right away noticed #2 sleeve is cracked bottom to top and right over the flange. That would explain the compression leak, but why exactly do they crack? Think I remember somthing about the cylinder walls getting out of round. Also, the pistons are mis-matched. Two are IH, the rest are a different brand. Think someone pieced this one together.

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Aces

05-26-2005 11:41:19

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Re: 560 gets expensive fast! in reply to K.B.-826, 05-24-2005 21:38:37

K B I will heve to step in here on the cracked sleeves. First of all the tractor is close to 40 years old, so one must check everything before rebuilding to determen cost. But as for the sleeves on a 560D 282 the sleeves were a slip fit and shims were used to set the highth of the sleeves so the head gasget would hold. So they would crack the sleeves some. Back in the 60's we would shim the sleeves them take them back and put aluminum paint on them, and get use out of the sleeves. Some times just put the piston with bad sleeves put new sleeves in and the old piston and rings. The early D282 in the 706 had the loose sleeves same thing. Then they changed to a tight sleeve in that engine no shims and pretty much stoped the cracking. So if the block is ok, a cracked sleeves does mean a cracked block but you have to check. Clean the block and paint the sleeves so they fit tight, you could be ok.

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Tom Graham

05-25-2005 16:31:54

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Re: 560 gets expensive fast! in reply to K.B.-826, 05-24-2005 21:38:37

I'd look for a 715 D combine and use it as an engine donor. Otherwise, depending on how much you paid, you could part it out.

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captaink

05-25-2005 05:47:17

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Re: 560 gets expensive fast! in reply to K.B.-826, 05-24-2005 21:38:37

KB,

Chances are that the block will be cracked behind the sleeve. I bought one about 25 years ago that had bad valve seats, two cracked sleeves, basically the engine was shot except for the crank and rods.

I had a machine shop bore the block and install sleeves that were then bored to accept the replaceable liners. I had the valve seats replaced and valves if needed, did the pump, injectors, radiator, etc, etc, etc. Did the clutch and TA while I had it apart. That was over 4000 hours ago and only problem I�ve had since is a head bolt let go.

You have three choices. Either try to sell it to some other poor soul and get your money back, junk it out, of fix it right. If you bought the tractor to use, if you fix it you will know what you have and chances are you will get many, many hours of service out of it.

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dej(JED)

05-25-2005 05:02:13

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Re: 560 gets expensive fast! in reply to K.B.-826, 05-24-2005 21:38:37

I learned a hard lesson on a 560 gasoline tractor. It was a money pit. Pulled the head and found a cracked head and sleeves. I just kept pouring money into it. I did however get it going and sold it for a break even price. About the only thing that can crack a sleeve is a freeze. It sounds like you have your work cut out for you. The water in teh oil is bad news because it can take bearings out quickly.
Good luck..... .....

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