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Farmall MCH?

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Easy

10-24-2005 10:10:13




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There is a tractor i have never heard of in the photo ads. Is this for real? or is it like the HTA?.




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C Kennedy

08-24-2006 22:23:42




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Easy, 10-24-2005 10:10:13  
Harold and George Willer - other too!

Ref: The ID modified MCH.. How can you tell if the transmission cover is reversible? Me not being anywhere near the tractor to see! Is it possible to get the RIGHT cover if the reversible cover is not there??

Also can you get the revered shift rails?? and if not - is it possible with NOT too much work have one made?? Lastly the gear shift would be the eaZist part??

Reason being I am thinking of getting a like tractor? I am totally new to tractors and think the cotton harvestor is the coolest thing! I have falling in love with the older tractors.. THe one thing stopping me from getting a cotton harvestor is the gears and driving forward.. I would wish to drive it in Fista Parades, Night Parades and on the 60 Mile Beach along the Texas Coast.. If on can't have fun with your tractors - then way have them "smile"

ps: any comments or comments on things I may not see/know of!

ps2. I would love a call via my cell # 210.912.7873 from Harold on this.. I will delete my cell # in a week or so!

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Harold H

10-25-2005 04:51:41




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Easy, 10-24-2005 10:10:13  
I have been trying to think what these tractors may have been used for. They may have been modified to use with a early bean picker. The first bean pickers I ever saw were on modified Farmall 504 High Clear tractors with TA and later on Farmall 656 High Clear Hydrostatic drive tractors. There were not many bean pickers in the South. This is the most logical application I can think of for this type modification. Anybody else got any other ideas?

Harold H

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Red Dave

10-24-2005 10:24:17




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Easy, 10-24-2005 10:10:13  
I think the seller is refering to that way because it was converted into a cotton harvester. Hence "M", "CH" (Cotton Harvester).



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Wardner

10-24-2005 11:55:38




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Red Dave, 10-24-2005 10:24:17  
Sure would like to see more pictures of that tractor. Owner claims the tractor is stretched to accomodate an auxililary transmission. It does seem like it might be a little longer than a M. It has a low-low first gear. One has to wonder why it need further gear reduction.

It is in ID and is one of twenty. I wonder how much cotton was grown in ID? I suppose it could have been brought up from AZ.

It would be nice if Harold H would comment on this tractor.

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Harold H

10-24-2005 12:28:37




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Wardner, 10-24-2005 11:55:38  
Although that tractor started out for a cotton picker, I have no idea what it was used for after it was streached and had the aux transmission added. We often converted them into high clear spray rigs after they were no longer used for cotton pickers by using a reversable transmission top so the tractor would again go forward with the bull gears and tall front fork and wheel. No other modifications were necessary. The pictured tractor was definitely for some sort of specialized application I don't know of.

Harold H

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George Willer

10-25-2005 06:04:55




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Harold H, 10-24-2005 12:28:37  
There must have been another reason for the aux tranny. The direction was reversed by simply installing the differential gears upside down.

George Willer



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Wardner

10-24-2005 13:40:02




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Harold H, 10-24-2005 12:28:37  
Harold,

Have you, or anyone else, seen one of these aux transmissions? Were they similar to the units used on Ford tractors? I think they were built by Sherman. Or, are they more like a truck auxililary that requires U-Joints for input and output? Were they ahead of the clutch housing or in back of it? How long were they? How many speeds? Who mfg'd them? Were they available for H's. Were there any H cotton Harvesters?

It is hard to imagine a harvester needing a deep reduction travel speed. It must have limited each tractor to only several acres a day. It seems like a low speed ratio would have been cheaper to build into the axle drop boxes by using an appropriate gear ratio. OTOH, maybe these tractors spent alot of time on the road traveling from field to field.

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Harold H

10-24-2005 14:51:28




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Wardner, 10-24-2005 13:40:02  
I have never seen one of the auxilary transmissions for a M. They were definitely not used on cotton pickers. Early in the cotton picker history, there was a high drum picker offered for the H but it was too underpowered and very few were sold. I have never seen a H set up for a high drum picker (flange rear housings for bull gears). H's were used under low drum pickers and got their change of direction using the reversable transmission top and fliping the differential.

Harold H

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Dave H (MI)

10-24-2005 12:05:28




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Wardner, 10-24-2005 11:55:38  
Several of those tractors were offered on ebay several years ago. They were located in the SE part of the country. Do not remember if they sold or for how much. I do remember there was a fair amount of stuff attached for picking the cotton. I have spoken to Joel in the past. He is a good guy and gave me a lot of help when I was starting out via email and telephone. His website may have more pictures. He is not as quick to reply to emails as he used to be. Something occurred that is making him sell a lot of his collection, don't know what. Anyway, here is a link to his website: http://www.fmtc.com/~fm_jands/

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Wardner

10-24-2005 14:21:58




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 Re: Farmall MCH? in reply to Dave H (MI), 10-24-2005 12:05:28  
Thanks for the site link. There was another picture before it was painted

It looks like the aux transmission was installed behind the center section (clutch housing). It also appears that the aux tranny is probably similar to a truck aux because the frame rails were extended and reinforced. The hood was lenghtened 18".

I wouldn't mind owning that tractor but I have too many right now. Unfortunately, the seller doesn't know much about its past history.

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