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Found a C in a junkyard

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Nitrousoxide

01-14-2006 11:16:17




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Hello, total tractor newbie here. Looking for advice. Always thought about making a long term project out of restoring one of these old machines. I've restored a few old chevys before. I know some folks who are heavy into the john deere and farmall scene around here. They usually snatch them up quickly so it's hard to find one. I ran across a C (I think)the other day in a junkyard. It looks complete except for the battery box is missing. Sheet metal is ok I guess. Lots of surface rust everywhere. Some rotting rust here and there. Tires flat(totally shot actually), wiring gone(looks to have been in a fire at some point),gauges and lights broken out, engine is full of water according to the dipstick. I'm sure it is locked up. I know this stuff is getting harder to find everyday. Just curious what this may be worth? I know it can be bought but I never heard a number from the guy. I didn't want to act too interested. How much could you sink into one of these mechanically and parts wise? I can handle the paint/body work and some of the mechanics. Just looking for some advice I guess. Thanks!!

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Nitrousoxide

01-16-2006 15:51:37




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Well I made it back to the junkyard today and the guy blew me away with a price of $450.00! I didn't even make a counter offer. He said he had a guy that wanted the wheels off it for $200 or something like that. I was still in shock at the price. Could have been a lie I suppose. I'll let it sit there a while and check back. After a crash course over the weekend on this sight, I have learned this is a super c(I think). It has a water pump, and a hydraulic pump. I guess the hydros drive the little rounded arms below the gas tank. I'm guessing it's a super c then. It also appears to be missing some more arms that would run to the hitch assembly at the rear. If it is indeed a super c is it worth any more than a regular c? I took pics. and can send them to anyone intersted in seeing them and wanting to help me really identify this thing. Just reply back to this thread and I'll send them to you if you like. By the way the model number on the frame was FC- and the serial number on the same tag was 148069. What's that tell you? Appreciate everyone's help a bunch!

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JohnG(TX)

01-15-2006 21:13:04




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
If you are seriously thinking of getting into restoring a tractor, any tractor, than you could buy this one, provided it is not too expensive, and use it for an education project by taking it apart and learning how things work and go together. If it is basically all junked, then you can sell the few usable parts off it, and gain valuable knowledge at the same time. Sometimes good experience comes with a hefty price tag (been there, done that, paid the bill, twice).

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PurdueAg

01-15-2006 18:50:17




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
My motivation in restoring tractors is not really driven by cost effectiveness or profit. I just like saving an old tractor and the satisfaction of making it look and run like new again -- and to say "I did it" rather than having farmed it out to some professional for a price. It sounds like you not only have that "appreciation" for saving old iron, but you also have some mechanical skill as well. With regard to cost: Yes, it's going to cost a couple thousand dollars or so, but the nice thing about restoring tractors, is that you don't have to buy everything at once. There's plenty of work to be done on the metal restoration that doesn't cost much at all. You can work on these kinds of things while you save up money for the tires, or the rebuild kit, etc. The other fun thing is taking time to look for parts at shows and meeting people and learning a lot in the process. My advice to you would be to go get that tractor if you can get it for $150.00 or less and start working on it. If worse comes to worse, and you either get in over your head or can't afford the restoration, you can make more than what you paid from parts and scrap metal. I am pretty much a newbie and I have the C that you saw on my website. It's coming along okay. The block is cracked, but this is repairable for about $100.00. My C sounds like it is at least as bad as yours.

Good luck.

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leon

01-15-2006 04:17:34




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
There's several C's and Super C's on ebay.com right now. I wouldn't buy one sight unseen, but one of them might be not too far from you.



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JakeF

01-14-2006 21:26:14




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
There are guys buying runing nice tractors and parting them out on E-bay and they make money at it. If you decide to fix this one up you'll be so far into it you could've bought a couple nice runners. Of course you'll have the satisfaction of keeping it from becoming scrpiron in China. Don't do it with any of them and plan to make money on the restoration. All you'll ever get from it is satisfaction. Jake

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PaulW_NJ

01-14-2006 17:40:32




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Here"s a guy you should talk to . . .

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Nitrousoxide

01-15-2006 05:22:00




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to PaulW_NJ, 01-14-2006 17:40:32  
Hey PaulW thanks for that link. This C that I ran across is probably in about the same shape as that guy's C was when he found it I'm afraid. The only didfference is mine is in one piece still. I'll try and post some pics. of this one next week if I can make it back to the junkyard. Thanks again for everyone's opinions at this point.



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Nitrousoxide

01-14-2006 15:51:13




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Thank you everyone for the quick responses! I was thinking the same as many of you..... ...it's pretty far gone and it could be a real money pit. I don't know much about tractors but I do know that engine work and tires alone could make it expensive real quick. The water factor didn't help much either. I wish I would have had my camera with me but I didn't. I just hate to see it get scrapped. I respect this old stuff. I have a feeling the crusher is where it will end up if someone doesn't save it. I started looking on ebay and pricing some "c's". I see the advantage in buyng one in running shape needing paint versus this one in the junkyard I know nothing about. I'm gonna go talk to the guy next week and get a price. I was thinking it might be worth scrap money or maybe a bit more considering what it is. Just out of curiosity, how much could I end up having in just rubber alone? I have a hookup at a machine shop if the block itself isn't cracked(this is the real gamle). They can fix almost any head by the way. Specialize in crack repair. I've personally seen them work miracles. I see a complete engine kit here for $500 or so. I can handle the paint, body work, and engine assembly, & other mechanicals. Trying to figure up some kind of total moneywise. Not alot to spend on this end. I feel like this tractor is sucking me in. I just hated to see it in the scrapyard. Can you feel me?

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Roger46

01-14-2006 16:45:12




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 15:51:13  
You may not want to start with a tractor in such bad shape. If it were your third or four tractor you may want to take it on as a challenge. I am on my seventh farmall restoration and now am thinking of what my next tractor will be that will be more challenging. One I am looking at is a TD-6 crawler tractor, but dealing with tracks seems like problems. I have found out that even buying a running tractor has it's hazards. The cub I am currently working on, it turns out has a broken transmission casting that someone glued back together with epoxy (found it on the bottom side under the paint). That is part of the fun of doing this tractor restoration. I am sure you have experience that in working with cars also. I also hate to see one of those old tractors end up in the scrap. Roger

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John M

01-14-2006 15:25:03




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Geeeeez! I guess everyone has forgotten the feeling they had when they found their first tractor,and how they felt the day it purred to life,and the day the decals went on.They werent complaing to much about money then,at least I wasnt.(They are right you know,you can buy one already to go for far less money.But wheres the fun in that)



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CNKS

01-14-2006 13:15:17




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
C's are common, that one is junk, unless you are looking for a parts tractor. It's worth no more than scrap iron price -- unless you are able to sell or use the decent parts.



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Steven@AZ

01-14-2006 12:21:48




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Walk away. I started with an H in similar shape, only bought it for the factory wide front and belly mounted mower, but thought I could get the tractor going again. ha ha. $4000 later I have a rusty H that purrs like a kitten, still needs tires and paint.

Do yourself a favor and spend the $$ for a running tractor with decent tin. Take it apart, clean it up, and paint it. Water in the oil pan = trashed block/head/etc.

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Will Sick

01-14-2006 11:34:35




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
Put an add on here under classified adds and try to buy one that is in better shape would be my advise. You can put a fortune in thse real basket cases. A farmall C or A would be a nice one to start out with.



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lee

01-14-2006 11:29:40




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to Nitrousoxide, 01-14-2006 11:16:17  
how about some pics? That one sounds like it might be bettter left where it is. How long has it been there? The sheet metal may be the most worthwhile parts on it. Engine full of water probably isn't worth fixing. The trans/diff may be full of water too. Surely you can find a better candidate. But maybe if it's cheap enough
and not too far to truck it might be worth it to gather it up. Check it out closer . See what the guy wants for it. Nothing to lose in asking. Depends on many factors.

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Janicholson

01-14-2006 15:41:07




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 Re: Found a C in a junkyard in reply to lee, 01-14-2006 11:29:40  
If you decide to do it give the owner scrap price, ~120-150$ then if it is as worthless as it appears, the scrap price still applies. All you have in it is the transportation to the yard.
Getting a second C or SC with potential wopuld give you a parts source.
JimN



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