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240 utility and ih2000 loader?

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KevinH

01-25-2006 17:11:26




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Will the international 2000 loader fit a 240 utility? I know nil about loaders. I found one local with the valves, hoses for $400. It is missing the bucket, but I have one of those I found in a scrap iron pile.
Thanks, Kevin




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K-Mo

01-26-2006 05:13:12




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-25-2006 17:11:26  
The hydraulic pump in the 240 doesn't have enough capacity to effectively operate the loader. You will need a separate pump for the loader which drives off the front of the crankshaft. On my 240, if I try to raise and dump at the same time, the loader will begin driff down.

K-Mo



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Hugh MacKay

01-26-2006 03:22:58




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-25-2006 17:11:26  
Kevin: I don't think I would want that loader on a 240U, particularly if the tractor is an ag version. That 2404 in the photo while it is much the same tractor as yours, will have a lot heavier front end.

If you notice one other item in the photo, the 2000 loader arms are designed in such a way they give lots of reach even for loading large trucks where loader has to be raised full height to reach over the side. The main problem with this design, is when loader is lower than 5' off the ground, it extends much further beyond the front axle. Inches from front axle count bigtime when that bucket is full of dirt. You will also find a 2000 loader or any loader designed for reach will require a lot more room, especially noticable in tight corners.

It all depends on what you wish to use a loader for. If it's yard work where you are manuvering around buildings, trees, vehicles, etc., a loader designed so bucket is much closer to tractor front will be much better. If your loading big trucks or any other high and long reach applications the a 2000 or like loader is for you. Personally I would put a much heavier tractor than a 240 under a loader for that latter use. I had a 560, with a 1/2 ton counter weight under my 2000 loader.

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KevinH

01-26-2006 03:59:58




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2006 03:22:58  
Ok, let me back up and get one small piece of information...the model...the tag says "I 240" sn-2890J. I read that as a 1958 240 utility with a Rockford clutch...now I wonder..."Is the I for "industrial?" Thanks, Kevin



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Hugh MacKay

01-26-2006 05:13:32




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-26-2006 03:59:58  
Kevin: If you notice in the serial number lists here on YT, there are listed Farmall, International and International & Farmall tractors. Before the days of number series tractors "I" did indeed indicate the tractor was industrial. However after number series and this situation did evolve thus it was not an imediate change, but it did change. For example if you look at the 240 you find it under Farmall as just 240, then under International as I-240 being a utility type tractor. YT don't have it listed but it was always my understanding the industrial version was I-2400. I know there was a 2400 or I-2400 tractor, have seen the decal, didn't look close up to see if it was same tractor as 240 with industrial specs. I know the general apearence was the same. If you go to the model that replaced the 240, being the 404, you will find under Farmall just 404, then under International I-404 and 2404. The 2404 is indeed the industrial version.

This change over by IH did leave much confusion, for example if you look for 130 and 140, much the same era, yet you will find these listed under International & Farmall as 130 and I-130, 140 and I-140. I have only owned Farmalls in this case. 130 was always decaled as Farmall or International, Early 140 were the same, then after 1967 140 were all decaled as International, and the Farmalls had in small print over the 140 model decal the word Farmall. This whole matter is very hard to follow unless you grew up with it, even then it is confusing.

Having said all this, and having owned several loaders over the years, my first reaction is the 2000 loader is much too heavy for a 240 other than the industrial version. Then you must also look at what you plan to use the loader for. I have owned loaders that were compact with bucket very close to front wheels. If you try loading high trucks with those you are always spilling material down over grill and hood of tractor. A few sprinkles of sand don't hurt but 6" rocks don't do your sheet metal much good. A 2000 loader on a big tractor not only reaches over the high sides of trucks, it will reach to the far side.

Only you can decide which type of loader is best for your use. At $400. I'd be tempted to buy the 2000, may be great bargaining power to trade with someone else for what might suit you better. Just my thoughts, match that loader to your needs. Only you know your current needs, then think about future needs.

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KevinH

01-26-2006 06:42:37




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 01-26-2006 05:13:32  
Thanks to all for the great advice. I have not yet decided what to do yet, but I understand the general consensus is that it's too much bucket.

Kevin



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PaulW_NJ

01-25-2006 19:27:52




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-25-2006 17:11:26  
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There"s a 2404 with a 2000 loader in the photo want ads today. I believe the 2404 is an industrial version of the 240U, so perhaps there"s hope. Particularly if you have power steering



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KevinH

01-25-2006 19:38:47




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to PaulW_NJ, 01-25-2006 19:27:52  
Thanks for the info and pic...gives me more to consider...plus there is ALWAYS hope!!and I think it has power steering...I'll know for sure when it comes home Friday.
Kevin



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the tractor vet

01-25-2006 17:13:43




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-25-2006 17:11:26  
I think that is a littel big for a 240 .



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KevinH

01-25-2006 17:21:32




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to the tractor vet, 01-25-2006 17:13:43  
What loader would you recommend and would the 2000 mount up to the 240 if I just watched how I used it. Loaders are not plentiful around here, especially affordable ones.



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the tractor vet

01-25-2006 17:31:11




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to KevinH, 01-25-2006 17:21:32  
You can make anything fit but the 200 was made for a lot bigger tractor and has a strong lifting capacity i had a 2000 on a 706 and it would lift more then i realy wanted on that tractor . I am not sure on the # of the ones that were made for the smaller tractors . That 2000 that i had on the 706 would lift a 15 foot culimulcher and the 580 case back hoe could only lift one side two foot off the ground but it's your tractor .

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KevinH

01-25-2006 17:33:32




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to the tractor vet, 01-25-2006 17:31:11  
Thanks for the info. I'll have to do some serious thinking.



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Richard G.

01-25-2006 17:17:49




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 Re: 240 utility and ih2000 loader? in reply to the tractor vet, 01-25-2006 17:13:43  
We"ll make it work.
Richard



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