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Farmall 200 Drowning

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Fencemender

04-02-2006 13:31:42




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I would appreciate any insight as to what might be going on with my Farmall 200.Recently I've noticed water in the oil.Not alot,but just enough to discolor the oil I see on the dip stick,and raise the level past full.The govenor seems to be hunting at medium speed,and will level off somewhat after a lengthy warm up.I use the tractor mainly for plowing my drives,and yards in winter,and pulling a hay wagon.Relatively light work.This past fall when the oil in the crankcase was noticed ,the oil was changed.Upon checking,the air filter cup was found to be full of water too.There does not seem to be any loss of power.Is it possible that the water in the oil is a result of condensation,and is effecting the engine and govenor.There are no leeks around the head gasket,no oil that I can see in the green antifreez.The tractor is stored in an uninsulated pole building.Any ideas would be appreciated.Thanks Jim.

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Shrps74

04-03-2006 05:54:08




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Fencemender, 04-02-2006 13:31:42  
As you may already be aware, C-123 engines are notoriously cold running things. Did you run the 200 for less than 20 minutes a few times over the winter? My 230 will collect a small amount of water in the crank case as well. I covered the front end/grill with a plastic trashbag (doubled up) and ducktaped it to the hood. Now I can actually get the temp needle to get up to the "cold/run" mark. I worked that way a couple of weeks ago and the condensation "cooked" out after about an hour. Also check your oil fill breather, it may be somewhat clogged up, and not letting vapor escape. BobG in VA

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Fencemender

04-03-2006 08:07:28




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Shrps74, 04-03-2006 05:54:08  
Thanks Bob.I have noticed that after overhauling the 200,with new guages ect.It takes about two hours of plowing to get the temp. needle into the cold register.Do you experience any problem with your govenor as a result of the condensation.Jim



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Shrps74

04-03-2006 09:40:13




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Fencemender, 04-03-2006 08:07:28  
No, no issues with the governor at all. Sounds like you may have a weak spring in the governor. After you run for a few minutes, go to the carb/governor rod. Leave tractor at idle speed (about 700rpm or so). With your hand move the rod backwards as far as it will go. If the governor is working properly, it will accelerate and then the governor will "force" the carb back to idle speed. If it isn't almost instantaneous, you probably have a weak spring or your carb needs an adjustment (set it at 1 1/4 turns out from lightly seated to start). BobG in VA

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Fencemender

04-03-2006 21:37:08




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Shrps74, 04-03-2006 09:40:13  
Thanks again Bob.After reading the repair manual,and your comments,I think the gov.is a seperate issue.I rebuilt it when took the 200 down to the bones,and did a nice job putting it all back together.It ran like a top for two years,and now I noticed the water,and the cranky govenor at the same time.I think Andrew Z is right about the o rings.I think I"ll watch it for awile.I have 55 400,that I"am getting ready to paint,after being "in" for almost two years,and a 1948 Cub, same age as me,that I"ve rebuilt twice in thirty years,my favorite.This is it though,I"m out of the tractor stage.Thanks again Bob.Jim Sullivan Co.,.N.Y.

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Andrew Z

04-02-2006 14:09:41




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Fencemender, 04-02-2006 13:31:42  
As for the H2O in the oil you might want to pull the oil pan and look around the sleeves and see if you can spot some rust up there. Leave the oil pan off for a while and see if yoiu can collect the dripping water on a piece of cardboard to locate the source. This would mean that you have a bad "O" ring on the sleeve. Andrew



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Fencemender

04-03-2006 08:15:49




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 Re: Farmall 200 Drowning in reply to Andrew Z , 04-02-2006 14:09:41  
Thanks Andrew.If I find that it's more than condensation,The 0-rings will be my next focus.They are always causing someone a problem.Jim



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