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GordoSD

07-20-2006 15:14:58




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I remembered reading this from my JD 350/450 Mower operators manual when I got it. I went back and looked it up today. "Remove drawbar locking pins to allow the tractor drawbar to be free to move sideways". Revision Printed 10/2000 As a USN trained pilot I won't go near a machine til I have damn near memorized the manual.I even searched out a manual for my IH16 SD rake. And I went directly to the factory to get one for a "PortoSeeder" I bought at auction.They no longer make the seeder but they had the old manuals. AND I got to talk to the man who invented it, and patented it and put it into production. He even gave me a bunch of belts and chains for it.

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NDS

07-20-2006 16:38:21




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 Re: More swinging drawbar in reply to GordoSD, 07-20-2006 15:14:58  
I have nothing against using swinging drawbars but IH did not think they were essential as they were extra cost option (at least on H and M). H and M with PTO even came with triangle shaped extension to bolt onto center of U drawbar to move pin pivot point in line with U joint.



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Hugh MacKay

07-20-2006 19:18:46




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 Re: More swinging drawbar in reply to NDS, 07-20-2006 16:38:21  
NDS: No one ever suggested the swinging drawbar was essential. IH clearly stated in their manual the benefit. It was basically up to the farmer to either spend his money on swinging drawbar or brakes. Yes my friend the swinging drawbar paid for themselves in 2,000 hours. Now, if you didn't work the tractor more than 2,000 hours in 50 years, I suppose it really didn't matter. If that was the case the tractor probably never pulled any heavy tillage tools either.

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CNKS

07-20-2006 20:14:06




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 Re: More swinging drawbar in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-20-2006 19:18:46  
It was essential on the H I drove as a kid. We had irrigated ground and more or less leveled it with a homemade thing we called a "drag" -- that's what it did. Made out of 2/6's or 2x8's, don't remember. 9 feet wide, 20? feet long with 4 cross pieces. Heavily weighted, it moved a lot of dirt, whoops I mean soil, including when I turned. Enough trouble with the swinging part loose, impossible when tight. A disk probably would have worked without the swinger, but I don't think I ever drove it with it loose in the 4000? hours or so I drove that H. It just depends on what you are trying to do.

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KIP in MX

07-21-2006 09:12:19




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 Re: More swinging drawbar in reply to CNKS, 07-20-2006 20:14:06  
We had the same thing but called it a "float". Floatīs hitch was two cables and if you turned too sharp they would catch and climb a tire. Pulled it with a 400 with fast hitch, so no swinging drawbar. Man, that was a dusty job in New Mexico summertime!



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CNKS

07-21-2006 17:59:26




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 Re: More swinging drawbar in reply to KIP in MX, 07-21-2006 09:12:19  
Same thing, this one had a cable. You learn pretty quick to automatically watch that cable as you turn. On a calm day (luckily not very many) I could barely see in front of the tractor. Dust from larger drags than ours could be seen several miles away. Drags were a cheap substitute for land planes, which are also called "floats", around here anyway.



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