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B275 - hard starter

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ennismore.mike

09-29-2006 04:19:02




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Just purchased a B275 at an auction sale. Tractor runs great, problem is getting it started. Any tips re starting would be appreciated.




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tasbrus

09-29-2006 06:30:20




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 Re: B275 - hard starter in reply to ennismore.mike, 09-29-2006 04:19:02  
Also check the voltage from the ends of the glow plugs to ground. #4 should be something like 4-6 volts and as you go twards the front they will each drop a little in voltage. If you get a big drop like to less then 1 volt you have a shorted glow plug or wire.



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Michael Soldan

09-29-2006 06:15:34




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 Re: B275 - hard starter in reply to ennismore.mike, 09-29-2006 04:19:02  
Ennismore Mike, I have a story for you, I've told it before on this line. I bought a B250 that sat for 8 years..was impossible to start without ether and ether is bad news. I suspected that the tractor had been abused a bit and when I changed all fluids and filters I was right. I also suspected dirty injectors slobbering fuel into the cylinder instead of misting it in. Long story/short I bought diesel fuel conditioner which cleans injectors, removes moisture and lubes the pump. I installed a new battery and kept it fully charged. I used the glow plugs and usually held it on for at least 30 seconds, after a few tankfuls of fuel treated with the fuel conditioner , the tractor started easier and easier. Then a friend who had been an AC dealer for 40 years told me to put a quart of automatic transmission fluid in with the tank of fuel as it is good to remove moisture and lube the pump. I have continued to put conditioner in the tractor and the occasional quart of oil or trans fluid in with a fill. I can start this tractor on the coldest day of the winter. I firmly believe that my injectors were as dirty as could be and this product cleaned them and assisted in making an easier start. I sometimes put a trickle charge on the battery in cold weather just to insure it is fully charged. I sometimes use the tractor for short durations and so the extra charge just ensures a better start. I also removed the oil pan after I got it and found an inch and a half of black cheesy sludge in the bottom of the pan, thius cleaned up gave me better more consistent oil pressure as the pick up would draw sludge sometimes. Interestingly as in your case my tractor ran fine once it warmed up,even slobbered fuel will ignite fine when the tractor was hot, yet it creates a poor start up condition. It is worth trying some injector cleaner for diesel rather than tearing the tractor apart. You may eventually need to look at the injectors and you may have to replace them(worst case senerio), on the other hand you may luck out like I did and a few tanks of treated fuel will clean things up. Definitely add a quart of trans fluid to lube your pump and get all moisture out of the system. Add a quart of oil to the fuel once in a while too and keep the pump lubed. If you have a good battery that spins the engine quickly it will be an asset. I have seen tractors not start and they seem to be turning over ok but when new batteries are added the tractor turns over much quicker and starts easier. My suggestion will cost you no more than $15 and its worth a try and it worked for me and I couldn't be happier with the way the B250 starts...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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ennismore.mike

10-05-2006 19:04:47




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 Re: B275 - hard starter in reply to Michael Soldan, 09-29-2006 06:15:34  
Thanks for your advice, will try as you suggested.



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Bill46

09-29-2006 04:47:51




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 Re: B275 - hard starter in reply to ennismore.mike, 09-29-2006 04:19:02  
Have you tried the cold weather start procedure? Been years since I messed with one...dad had one when I was a kid.
As I recall you can pull out on the linkage where it is connected to the injector pump. It will kinda make a clicking sound.
Word of caution...don't have the throttle too hi as it will start fast and run at where the throttle is set until it resets its self.
Also...watch the indicator for the glow plugs...it will glow red...when cold this may take as much as a minute.
Been a long time since I messed with one...hope I am right...brain is getting old.

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