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Farmall H engine question

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DJL

10-16-2006 22:07:22




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Hey fellas, got an H question. I picked this tractor up a year ago at an auction. Beautiful new paint and all new rubber. Tractor seems to start and run fine. Here's the problem. Tractor smokes black some, not real bad, but bad enough to notice. I also notice some black soot-like stuff coming out of the exhaust on occasion. I've got straight 30 W oil in it, and pressure is good at cold start up, but quickly works it's way down close to the red mark on the gauge at warm idile. It will come up a bit when reved up. I was quessing that it needs rings? Is that a fair quess? Was talking to an old IH mechanic, and he thought possilby cam bushings? Where do I go from here?
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DJL

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Bob M

10-17-2006 06:07:34




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to DJL, 10-16-2006 22:07:22  
Observations by others below are right on! Black in the exhaust means the carb mixture is too rich.

Before you adjust the carb however check to be sure there’s no restriction in the air cleaner (run it with the air inlet tube temporarily disconnected). Also that the choke plate is open all the way when the choke rod is pushed in.

Then try turning the high speed screw in (clockwise) ¼ turn at a time until the black just disappears and the engine still picks up without stumbling when you snap open the throttle. Only if the high speed screw bottoms out and it still smokes black will you need to go inside the carb to look float settings, etc.

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Regarding the low oil pressure situation, first thing I’d do is switch to multi-grade oil (10W30 or 15W40). Multi-grade will make a significant difference in oil pressure when the engine is warm – especially if the straight 30 oil currently in the engine is diluted with gas from the carb running rich (which it probably is by now….)

Other possible causes are a worn, warped or loose oil pump cover, or worn main/rod/cam bearings as others note. However as long as ANY oil pressure shows on the gage at warm idle and oil pressure rises when RPM’s are increased, the engine will enjoy a long life just the way it is.

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Wayne Swenson

10-17-2006 05:48:07




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to DJL, 10-16-2006 22:07:22  
With the engine warm & running at wide open throttle (WOT), turn high speed mixture screw in until the engine begins to starve for fuel. Then turn the screw out until the engine begins to blubber. Now find the "sweet spot" in between the two settings. If you are working the engine (plowing, etc.), then the high speed screw needs to be turned out 1 turn or more beyond the "sweet spot" to be sure the engine isn"t starving for fuel and can develop its rated power.

The same procedure can be followed for idle mixture with the addition of the ldle stop screw to set the low speed RPM.
On the "H"& “M” carb, the idle mixture screw is an air adjusting screw so turning in will richen the mixture and out will lean the mixture.
Repeat the procedure again to make sure “all is well”.

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City-Boy McCoy

10-17-2006 03:38:14




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to DJL, 10-16-2006 22:07:22  
Vern is correct. Black smoke is an indication your engine is running too rich. Either adjust your carb settings, or rebuild carb paying particular attention to float level setting.
Your oil pressure problem is not related to the piston rings. Bad rings would make blue smoke. Rings control oil consumption - not oil pressure. Low oil pressure is normally the result of loose clearances in rod, cam or main bearings. Low oil pressure can also be caused by a weak or worn oil pump - which is where I would start first - the oil pump. Pay particular attention to the cover on the pump as they can warp or work loose and cause a loss of pressure. If you still have an oil pressure problem after checking/repairing/replacing the oil pump, then it is probably time to tear into the engine.
Some of the H owners can tell you for sure, but there may also be some kind of oil pressure relief valve and passage in an H block, which may be either assembled improperly or which has failed in some way.
mike

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Andy Martin

10-17-2006 05:09:18




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to City-Boy McCoy, 10-17-2006 03:38:14  
If the pump is OK and you have low oil pressure, but still ahve oil pressure, there is no reason to rebuild the engine unless you just want to.

Someone may have replaced the bearings but not the cam bushings, resulting in loss of oil there. If you don't use the tractor for a lot of hard work you may find you get acceptable results by running 20w50 motor oil.



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Vern

10-16-2006 22:28:28




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to DJL, 10-16-2006 22:07:22  
Black smoke is too much fuel. Check float level & other carb related issues.

Vern



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Andy Martin

10-17-2006 05:06:29




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 Re: Farmall H engine question in reply to Vern, 10-16-2006 22:28:28  
Just screw the main jet screw in a turn or so.

A little black smoke is normal at idle if you have the screw set to work it hard. The screw should be set so the engine does not miss under load, otherwise in as far as possible.



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