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Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline

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JohnG(TX)

11-06-2006 12:23:24




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I recently bought a 1941 B for $150. The serial tag has no X1 suffix, but the hood has no hole for a starting tank. The manifold (or remains of it) looks to be a gasoline manifold. It was rusted beyond recognition, but appeared not to have a heat valve in it. The cylinder head part number matches the only one listed in my 1941 Parts Book. When I removed the head, the pistons were pop-ups, so someone had juiced the engine earlier. (The weird thing is that the pop-ups are smooth dual domes, not the stepped raised type, any ideas?) It has no shutters or brackets. I was wondering if they removed all the distillate equipment and replaced the hood with a gasoline version.

I also have a 1952 Super C (for $150 also) and it has no -X1, and has no distillate equipment on it either.

Was the -X1 suffix not put on some gasoline tractors, or is it a hard, fast rule that no suffix is definitely a distillate/kerosene model?

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Roger Mills

11-07-2006 05:31:39




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
I read recently that early B models were marked FAA with a suffix X1.



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Jim Becker

11-07-2006 17:14:32




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to Roger Mills, 11-07-2006 05:31:39  
No but ther first few BNs were marked FAA with an X7.



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Charles McNelly III

11-06-2006 19:14:15




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
Hi John, How tall are the domes on the pistons? Just curious, I just pulled the pistons out of my B and there was a "D" stamped on them. They"re flat tops. When I tore the engine down, I could not believe they didn"t put cam bearings in these motors. You would think it would wear out fast. My B has the gas manifold and hood so one would think it came that way. Are you fixing it up or parting it out? Looking for parts....
Charles

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JohnG(TX)

11-07-2006 05:51:51




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to Charles McNelly III, 11-06-2006 19:14:15  
Charles, I think I am planning on fixing this little girl. I'm not one to part out tractors. I enjoy working on them, and the harder it is, the greater the satisfaction at the end.

The domes on the pistons are, I think, about 3/4 inch or so. I took photos of them, but the domes don't show up well. I did not see anything stamped on top of the pistons, but they are still in the block with crud on top of them. Once I get them out, I'll know better. It may be a while. This little one is far down the list. I wanted to save it from the scrap man for fun later.

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RustyFarmall

11-06-2006 17:10:17




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
A suffix to the serial number indicates the available options that were factory installed. If there is no suffix, it means that no options were installed. In other words, the lack of the X1 suffix would indicate that the tractor came from the factory just as it is. The standard fuel for an H or M was the distillate, and gasoline was the option, hence the X1 suffix on Hs and Ms.



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Farmer Ryan from WI

11-06-2006 15:34:39




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
I think the B's are just gas.



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tractorsam

11-06-2006 15:29:02




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
I've never run across the X1 suffix on the smaller Farmalls either so maybe it was just done on the H and M. I could beleive that someone might have converted it to gas but I doubt they'd have bothered to change the hood. tractorsam



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CNKS

11-06-2006 14:22:14




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
In my opinion X1 was used mainly, I think only, on the H and M. I really shouldn't comment on the B, except that my dad had both prewar and postwar B's and I don't remember a starting tank on either, but my memory of the prewar is nearly non-existent. I only remember my dad using gas, I could be wrong. While most of the wartime H's and M's were kerosene or distillate, I believe most A's and B's were gas, but I cannot prove either of those statements. It is very likely that your Super C is gas, as few kero/distillate versions were being produced then, but they do exist. Only my opinion. (This should bring a lot of responses from the kero/dist A and B people)

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JohnG(TX)

11-06-2006 13:16:14




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 Re: Farmall B, Distillate/Kerosene or Gasoline in reply to JohnG(TX), 11-06-2006 12:23:24  
Oh, forgot to mention, the sediment bowl was replaced with a larger, single inlet one, like off an H or M. So, maybe a gasoline conversion?



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