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Implements for use with a Super H

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RSCO

11-19-2006 17:34:16




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I'd like to get a land plane and a roller harrow for use with my IH Super H. Re: each of these implements, how large can I expect to pull with the Super H




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RSCO

11-20-2006 09:30:49




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to RSCO, 11-19-2006 17:34:16  
Thanks for he responses. It sounds as if the SH should pull an 8' or 10' land plane, which is about what I was thinking. As for the roller harrow, I guess this must be a local term. Some people call them cultimulchers. What they are is a machine something like a wheel disk, but with rollers in front and back and a spring tooth harrow in the middle. They're used to break up clods and to firm a seed bed.

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Allan In NE

11-20-2006 07:27:55




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to RSCO, 11-19-2006 17:34:16  
It will pull a 12-ft. float or an 8 foot disc.

Won't even begin to pull a land plane and don't know what a "roller harrow" is. Never heard of it.

Allan



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Hugh MacKay

11-20-2006 17:26:00




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to Allan In NE, 11-20-2006 07:27:55  
Allan: You must be thinking about land planes like the Rayne Plane, 50' long and 12 or 14 feet wide, 1/2 dozen blades in there at various angles. Those little units will make a 350 hp articulated sweat.



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CNKS

11-20-2006 09:56:27




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to Allan In NE, 11-20-2006 07:27:55  
Allan, what I pulled with an H was called a land plane in south Texas. Maybe 20 feet long, large upright frame. perhaps 8-10 feet wide, or larger if you had something to pull it. What they call floats in SW Kansas are somewhat shorter, have smaller wheels, and a lighter more compact frame. Perhaps more of a finishing tool, not as heavy duty as a land plane. It may not be necessary to use a land plane each year -- a float may be more routine, don't know. They do look different, many are/were made by Everson. H will pull both, either will bring an H to its knees if run too deep. With the smaller tractors you just make more trips. We only occassionally used a land plane, but used what we called a "drag", 9 feet wide, maybe 15-20? feet long with several cross pieces, no wheels. Strictly a local farm type of thing, as they could not be drug cross country. Made with 6/8 X 10's completely out of wood. There were metal ones. I have not seen a single one of those in Kansas, very common in S Texas, or at least they used to be. Floats and land planes are slowly dying out due to sprinkler irrigation, still a lot of flood, though.

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jwal10

11-19-2006 19:25:21




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to RSCO, 11-19-2006 17:34:16  
Hi, A Super H will pull 10' equipment.But in hard soil 8' would be better.I pull an 8' IHC 370 wheel disk. A land plane can carry a lot of dirt and pull hard if you load it up. Also if hard soil it is hard to cut but can be loosened up first. Also a pull type rollerharrow can load up in loose soil,a wheel type can be raised up to pull easier.



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CNKS

11-19-2006 19:14:10




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to RSCO, 11-19-2006 17:34:16  
I can't really give you the size of the land plane, as it depends on how deep you run it. In the 50's my dad rented one from Soil Conservation Service (current name is Natural Resource Conservation Service or something like that). We pulled it behind an H, but it was also used by people with much larger tractors. I think it was about 8 feet wide or so. I assume the "roller" harrow you mention is a disk harrow. If it is a 4 gang tandem disk, probably 8 feet if you weight it good, maybe 10 with no weight, assuming it is the old drag type. Wheel controlled ones are heavier, maybe 8 feet if you try to run it deep. If it is a rotary hoe with a low power requirement, probably considerably wider, maybe 15 feet, only a guess.

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Farmallb

11-19-2006 18:52:24




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to RSCO, 11-19-2006 17:34:16  
Im pretty sure what a land plane would be. Pretty much like a grader right? But what in hades is a rollar harrow??? Is it a rotery hoe?? wheels with spikes at the outer edge



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CNKS

11-19-2006 19:27:38




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to Farmallb, 11-19-2006 18:52:24  
A land plane, some people call it a "float" is perhaps 20 feet long with a blade in the middle with enclosed ends. It is used to fill minor depressions on flood irrigated land. The blade cuts off the high places and moves the soil to the lower places. It runs at a constant depth, that is you don't raise or lower it, the older ones did not have hydraulics and could not be raised or lowered on the go anyway, you had to get off the tractor and adjust it with a crank on either side of the blade. It leaves a more or less smooth surface. Don't confuse it with a road grader, as it will move more soil without it going around the ends, since it it enclosed. It's not an earthmover either. It is used to smooth the soil so that water will run down the furrows (row crops or vegetables) or spread evenly over the soil if the ground is bordered (alflafa, etc).

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VAJerry

11-19-2006 19:18:36




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 Re: Implements for use with a Super H in reply to Farmallb, 11-19-2006 18:52:24  
Maybe a cultipacker?



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