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IMPORTANT PAINT CODES

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Tom Windsor

12-08-2006 19:34:38




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I AM SURE YOU ALL SAW IT BELOW. BUT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE IT, THERE IS A QUESTION ABOUT FARMALL PAINT CODES BELOW. THERE IS A LIST OF PAINT CODES THAT YOU SHOULD PRINT OUT AND HAVE IN YOUR FILE. ALSO, THE REFERENCE TO THE CHIP SITE SHOULD BE NOTED.

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CNKS

12-08-2006 20:10:33




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 Re: IMPORTANT PAINT CODES in reply to Tom Windsor, 12-08-2006 19:34:38  
The only old red codes readily available are IH 50 and IH 2150. The only older red available from CaseIH is 2150. 50 crosses to PPG 70019/DuPont 7410, used from 1936-1949. 2150 crosses to PPG 71310/DuPont 96766, used 1961 until 1980 something, I think. NAPA/Martin Senour/Sherwin Williams and others can match these codes. As far as I know, IH 1102b (1949-1958) and IH 201 (1958-1961) are not available--if someone knows the aftermarket codes for those I will stand corrected. The actual shades of both 50 and 2150 will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, thus the "correct" colors, in my opinion, no longer exist. Even the 2150 that you buy from CaseIH (Valspar) will not be an accurate match to the original 2150, which likely varied from IH itself, depending on who supplied it. The aftermarket codes do, however, provide a starting point, and the toners can be changed to satisfy anyone looking for the "correct" color, that is one that satisfies the individual, to heck with the correct police, who don't know anything anyway. The available "original" chips will be faded enough to preclude getting an accurate match. The origin of the cheaper paints such as BPS (Tractor Supply), Van Sickle, Rustoleum, etc are anyone's guess. It's hard enough to match a 2006 car (they get very close) much less a 40-60+ year old tractor. Unlike the current automotive industry, the tractor manufacturers did not provide the aftermarket with a formula, the available tractor colors are someone's idea of what was correct. That is someone took a picture of a tractor, or perhaps an originally painted part to some paint company and they copied it as best they could. I have access to numerous DuPont codes (not going to provide them to anyone, because the DuPont guy doesn't really want them spread around) there are several codes for the same color, so it really is a big guess. The ones I listed above for 50 and 2150 seem to be the accepted ones though, and are easiest to find. I consider the PPG version of 2150 to be too orange, and have had it slightly modified to satisfy myself.

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Tom Windsor

12-08-2006 20:16:10




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 Re: IMPORTANT PAINT CODES in reply to CNKS, 12-08-2006 20:10:33  
Thank you..another important piece to print out for the files.

TW



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kfox

12-09-2006 12:13:06




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 Re: IMPORTANT PAINT CODES in reply to Tom Windsor, 12-08-2006 20:16:10  
The IH 2150 seems to darken with time. I painted my old H this summer, and it is darker now than when the paint was new. Last week I painted the PTO shield, and when I installed it this morning, it was quite a bit lighter than the paint that has been on a couple of months. Just my opinion :-) ken



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CNKS

12-09-2006 17:57:41




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 Re: IMPORTANT PAINT CODES in reply to kfox, 12-09-2006 12:13:06  
The PPG 71310 I use gets a little darker, not a lot. The weird thing I have noticed is it is mostly red when it goes on, orange comes in after a couple of hours, then it gets slightly darker with time -- I think my eyes are shot.



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