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getting in to antique pulling advise?

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jcarter

07-28-2007 11:09:33




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Antique pulling is starting to get going again locally with basic rules and mostly local smalltime competetors.To build somthing to play with in 5-7 and 7-10 thousand # range on a modest budget, what do you guys recommend, an M, 400,or 450 with that motor style or a 460-560 with the 6 cylinder motor.Gas of course and 1960 age limit.Any help or direction is appreciated. Jim.




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ChadS

07-30-2007 06:29:56




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
Find you a M or a SM. The SM has the best engine upgrade option for that series and allows you to put more weight on the tractor for better leverage VS a heavier 400-450. A M can get down to 4500 with pressed steel rims, a 400-450 wont get below 5000 without it being stripped down beyond what a M can. So if you got a 4500# M and you wanna pull 7000#,,, thats quite a bit of added weight to get it balanced out. JMHO, Chad

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sfleming@delongcompany.co

07-29-2007 19:26:17




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
FYI They wont let you pull a 460 or 560 in antique pulls in WI/No Ill. Also, I like my SMTA for pulling. It has a little more ground speed in the low gear classes and the ta is great if they let you use it in open classes



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jcarter

07-29-2007 07:00:23




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
Thanks for the replys,will probably post on the pulling forum latter when we start working on one.I posted here first to get ideas on which red one to look for. Over there, half the guys would be saying it had to be green.This wouldn't be tug pulling. There is a little old mechanical sled.A 400 or 450 are somewhat easy to find around here.Does there design work better than an M ?.I am in western Manitoba, where the 400 450 460's are mostly standard models,not row crop.I'm thinking the rowcrop, higher wheels are better.

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georgeky

07-28-2007 20:41:35




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
If pulling the stone boat or tug pulling as we call it here the M or 460 will get in the 5000 lb class and can be weighted to whatever for other classes. In the tug pulls HP does not win those. I have beat many tractors with lots more power than my M will produce. Traction is the key in tug pulls. I have won many a pull with an M. With the tractors you mention it is hard to pick just one for a given application. The 460/560 do quite well hooked to the big sled. The 400 is just hard to beat all around. For the tug pulls you won't have to spend much money on those tractors and get to play all night. I have a grand total of 4000 bucks in my 48 M and have won many pulls with it as well as working it on the farm on almost a daily basis.

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wolfman

07-28-2007 18:42:03




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
If you want an inexpensive yet very competive puller, think 460. Can easily get it down to 5000#; can easily double its rated hp. For pure dead weight pulls, a 400 is awesome.



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Clarkbug

07-28-2007 15:18:42




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 Re: getting in to antique pulling advise? in reply to jcarter, 07-28-2007 11:09:33  
Hi Jim.

You might have better luck if you post your questions over on the tractor pulling forum. Most of the folks there have tried out the machines you are thinking of and can probably give you some good input.

Good luck with the pulls!

~Bug



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