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Photos of a Split M?

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Smith1000

01-21-2008 06:54:27

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I am needing to split my M to replace the clutch and I was wondering if anyone had some photos they would be willing to post of a split M or H for that matter. I was kind of wanting to see what it all looked like split.
Also, I don't have any concrete around here to work on. Is this a doable job on a dirt floor in a barn? Are splitting stands absolutely necessary for the job? I do not currently have any, but am willing to invest in some if that's what it takes. Thanks.

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tmonton

01-22-2008 11:33:10

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

I was looking over the stainless kitchen sink in the one photo.

Here is my garage and some homemade stands.

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John M

01-21-2008 13:46:33

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Changed several in the back yard without splitting them.

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Ron-Mo

01-21-2008 13:12:27

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

I saw a post some time ago where someone was using a couple of these traler stands from Harbor Freight. Looks like a plan if you have to split.

Trailer stands

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Smith1000

01-21-2008 11:47:13

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Thanks to all for the great photos. Splitting it looks like it will be a fairly major project. I think I can make it work on wood planks. I can carefully roll it apart.
It is actually a Super MTA w/a fairly late serial #. I checked the # yesterday. What I have read indicates it probably has a 12" clutch and will have to be split. If there were any way to replace just the clutch plate through the bottom, I would sure try it. I will proably just go ahead and get some splitting stands and get it all set to come apart. I will check out those splitting stands.

First, I need to take the loader off. It has a Farmand trip bucket loader on it, which, I am sure will have to come out of the way.

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K.B.-826

01-21-2008 18:56:41

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 11:47:13

If it is a Super MTA, you will need to split it.

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 12:01:43

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 11:47:13

I have a neighbor that claims the clutch can be replaced on a super M without splitting. I won't say that he is right, but it would sure be worth a try. If it doesn't work, you are out a little time, nothing more.

From experience, I can tell you that using the planks on a dirt surface did not work when I replaced the clutch on an 856. I wrecked that brand new clutch plate and had to spend another $100 for the second new plate. That was 35 years ago.

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Steven f/AZ

01-21-2008 11:45:07

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Allan In NE said: (quoted from post at 09:17:58 01/21/08) Hey Stever,

Can I borrow your cream separater base?
I gotta change out a front end and these guys holler at me when I just use a bottle jack. :>(

Allan[/quote:753281cc6f]

Nah, your bottle jack is just fine. Whenever I was blocking tractors up that way I would always get it set the way I wanted and shake the tractor about as hard as I could - if it didn't fall off I felt safe, and of course always made sure to never really be under it anyway.

[quote:753281cc6f="Hayfarmer"](quoted from post at 09:57:37 01/21/08) Hey you got everything in your shop including the kitchen sink!!

Yep, even a meat grinder! That is our only heated garage on the farm so it gets used for EVERYTHING... Dad is currently building my nieces a play-house in there.

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CRUSADER

01-21-2008 11:09:12

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

If it's not a Super you should be able to drop the belly pump and do the clutch without splitting it. A concrete floor in a shop sure is nice, but isn't necessary. I changed one out in a pasture where it stopped once.

Jim

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 10:38:36

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Like this?

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CRUSADER

01-21-2008 11:06:19

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-21-2008 10:38:36

Are those home made stands or did you buy them? They are definitely nice, and from the looks of them they are universal.

Jim

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 11:22:15

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to CRUSADER, 01-21-2008 11:06:19

Homemade. Sort of copied from a set I used almost 40 years ago that were built by OTC.

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neblinc

01-21-2008 09:39:24

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Bunch of pics of my H teardowns here.

H Pics

Randy

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Lee in Iowa

01-21-2008 08:10:24

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

I didn't do it, but I know the mechanic put a clutch in my M without splitting it. Lee

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Steven f/AZ

01-21-2008 07:39:20

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Here's an H:

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Hayfarmer

01-21-2008 08:57:37

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Steven f/AZ, 01-21-2008 07:39:20

Hey you got everything in your shop including the kitchen sink!!

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Allan In NE

01-21-2008 08:17:58

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Steven f/AZ, 01-21-2008 07:39:20

Hey Stever,

Can I borrow your cream separater base?

I gotta change out a front end and these guys holler at me when I just use a bottle jack. :>(

Allan

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Dave H (MI)

01-21-2008 13:45:07

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Allan In NE, 01-21-2008 08:17:58

We would just hate to lose yah, izzall! :D

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Allan In NE

01-21-2008 07:29:57

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

I "think" that if it has the 11" clutch you could pull it out thru the bottom.

Unless that darned flywheel needs attention.

Story goes that only the 12" clutch means a split.
Anyone know fer sure?

Allan

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Duner Wi

01-21-2008 09:54:17

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Allan In NE, 01-21-2008 07:29:57

I have changed the 11 in. clutch in "M" with out splitting . I think in the archives someone put just the disk in a 12 in. without splitting. Maybe the whole works , can't remember.

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 07:34:37

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Allan In NE, 01-21-2008 07:29:57

Geez, hadn't even though of that. Yes, it can be done without splitting, and if you have only a dirt floor, that would be the recommended method.

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01-21-2008 07:26:07

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

why not do it without splitting? i have did a "H" in less than 2 hours. an "M" would be the same.

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RustyFarmall

01-21-2008 07:23:33

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

A dirt floor is going to make that job pretty tough. Some heavy, 2 inch planks will make it do-able, but still going to be tough. I've got pictures of a split H. I'll try to upload them to parts and pieces.

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El Toro

01-21-2008 07:10:14

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Re: Photos of a Split M? in reply to Smith1000, 01-21-2008 06:54:27

Doing that tractor splitting on a dirt floor may make the job difficult to move the split pieces apart and to mate them together. That's a lot weight to handle. Make sure you're safe when doing this. Here's a web site for splitting stands. Hal

www.splittingstands.com/

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