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Re: A cylinder 2 and 3 not firing

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1fortyfanatic

05-12-2008 16:41:13




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How are you helping the original poster when you argue this point? Because SEVERAL posts ago, he SAID he checked the manifold and there were no leaks.
That means that the manifold, and all associated arguments from then on, ARE NOT RELEVANT to him, since he already eliminated the manifold as a possible problem!
He was not going on any wild goose chase since as soon as he sprayed it while running, he was satisfied that there was no leak, therefore you were not protecting him. He was not, I repeat, NOT going to follow any farther down the manifold road because he ALREADY ELIMINATED IT as a possible problem. So after he posted that, he was off looking at other possible issues, but you just kept right on coming after me. Why? Perhaps you are just very technically minded and thought it was an interesting discussion from that point of view, but it had nothing to do with helping francois and his A once he posted that he had moved on.

For my part, I had thought that you WERE teddy52, and were jacking with me just for the sake of jacking with me. Now I realize that teddy52 asked the question first, then it was all you after that. My bad. So I'm sorry for jumping back at you so soon in the exhange. But that doesn't change the fact that you won't accept that I have a different opinion concerning what damage can be done by a blow-by gasket, and have been on my case ever since. So, can we agree to disagree and finally end this?

I readily admit that right now, I am violating my own principle, in that I am even writing this back. To all on the board, I apoligize for even going this route. To francois, this has nothing to do with you, you did nothing wrong, and I'm sorry for jacking your post with this idiocy.

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francoisc27

05-12-2008 19:14:55




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 Re: A cylinder 2 and 3 not firing in reply to charles todd, 05-12-2008 16:41:13  

1fortyfanatic said: (quoted from post at 19:41:13 05/12/08) How are you helping the original poster when you argue this point? Because SEVERAL posts ago, he SAID he checked the manifold and there were no leaks.
That means that the manifold, and all associated arguments from then on, ARE NOT RELEVANT to him, since he already eliminated the manifold as a possible problem!
He was not going on any wild goose chase since as soon as he sprayed it while running, he was satisfied that there was no leak, therefore you were not protecting him. He was not, I repeat, NOT going to follow any farther down the manifold road because he ALREADY ELIMINATED IT as a possible problem. So after he posted that, he was off looking at other possible issues, but you just kept right on coming after me. Why? Perhaps you are just very technically minded and thought it was an interesting discussion from that point of view, but it had nothing to do with helping francois and his A once he posted that he had moved on.

For my part, I had thought that you WERE teddy52, and were jacking with me just for the sake of jacking with me. Now I realize that teddy52 asked the question first, then it was all you after that. My bad. So I'm sorry for jumping back at you so soon in the exhange. But that doesn't change the fact that you won't accept that I have a different opinion concerning what damage can be done by a blow-by gasket, and have been on my case ever since. So, can we agree to disagree and finally end this?

I readily admit that right now, I am violating my own principle, in that I am even writing this back. To all on the board, I apoligize for even going this route. To francois, this has nothing to do with you, you did nothing wrong, and I'm sorry for jacking your post with this idiocy.


No worries, I took the valve cover off today and adjusted the valves. I did it at .017 cold and then came back after it was warmed up and readjusted it to .014. I am assuming it needed to be inches and not mm.

that made no difference.

I did notice though that while I was warming up the engine that the number 4 cylinder was blowing bubbles right at the spark plug, and when I was rotating the engine with the plugs out the number 4 piston had a ton of oil on top of it.
I then decided to just go ahead and pull the head. I don't know what I am looking for to find out if the head gasket was blown but I would assume a blow out of some sort from one of the water jackets to the cylinder, I can't tell. I am gonna take the head up to the machine shop and have them clean it up and check it out for me.

At this point I am gonna really need some advice and some prayers to get this thing back together and running.
I am not doing this for a restore, I am just simply trying to learn as much as I can on this one in hopes to have more experience on my next purchase, Maybe an H or M...we'll see.

I'll get back to you guys when I have more info.....

Sorry my post started an arguement. I did not intend to start some thing I just want to learn..... .

Thanks to all of you guys for helping...

Francois

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ih560

05-12-2008 19:43:13




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 Re: A cylinder 2 and 3 not firing in reply to francoisc27, 05-12-2008 19:14:55  
Most of the time you can look at the head gasket itself on one side or the other and see where it has been leaking. You can try looking for a discoloration on the surface of the gasket between cylinders or to the water jacket or crankcase.



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