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What Was The Worst Injury?

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Dave in GA

08-11-2003 10:53:13




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Just curious. What was the worst injury anyone's experienced operating or working on an old tractor or implement? I grew up with a kid who had his arm chewed up in a combine, and I lost an adult cousin who was run over by a tractor he was working on.




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Matt Clark

08-20-2003 09:27:55




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
I guess I don't see this as a "let's see how gruesome we can get" thread. Nearly all the replies I've read just have led me to be a little more careful around the place. I visualize my own kids running up to ride with me...thank God they're older now and that's not a worry. Now, if I can just train my nieces and their young friends to just stay away, I'll sleep better. Just makes me think a little harder.

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Rick Black

08-14-2003 09:01:30




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
I grew up on a farm, and haven't been on one in 25 years...until this past year when I bought my Grand Parents Homestead. Being away so long, there are things we forget, and threads like this (without the gore) are VERY helpful to remind us of the dangers.
I now have three tractors, and the other day my dad (who grew up on the family farm) came over to help me. I asked him to shut down the JD 4020, which was idleing in park. Instead of climbing up on the tractor, he walked over to it, stood in front of the rear tire, reached up and grabbed the wrong lever. Instead of the throttle, he grabbed the shifter. We are so lucky the tractor was idleing slowly. I saw the tractor start to move and jumped over to him and pulled him out of the way. Had it been at a faster idle, that 8,600 lb tractor would have rolled right over him. I know I couldn't stand to live if he died doing something I asked him to do.
We had a neighbor who was about 70, and had owned a J.D. A since it was new. He was hooking up a 2 bottom plow to it, and instead of climbing on, he reached up over the rear axle and pushed the clutch forward (as he had done thousands of times before). Unfortunately, the clutch linkage was worn and when it engaged, the tractor jumped back, running over him. The plow held the tractor from moving more than a couple feet, and when his son found him, the tire had literally ripped all of his guts out.

Danger is all around us. DON'T TAKE SHORTCUTS around machinery.

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Bill Smith

08-13-2003 13:53:20




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
No accidents here so far while wrenching on a tractor. I consider myself pretty safety cautious, but thought I would share some of my close calls on an operators stand point. I roll started a tractor one time with an unsecured battery. During the process, the positive post of battery got over against gas line and turned it red hot. A little smoke is the only reason I caught that in time. Another time I was starting a tractor while standing beside it because the battery had a bad connection and I was jiggling the battery cable. The tractor was on steel wheel's and it was in gear when it started. I barely got out of the way from getting run over by the rear wheel. Then I had to chase the tractor down. Another time I was mowing weeds with a sickle mower. Was having some trouble with weeds plugging up the mower so I was going along watching the mower more than where I was going. I was a little closer to a big ditch than I thought I was when I found it. I got the tractor stopped just in the nick of time or I would of definately flipped it over. I just thank the lord that these were close calls instead of accidents.

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Okla/kans Bill

08-12-2003 11:34:12




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  

I had killed myGrandads 34 CC Case in a bunch of sumac sprouts and small trees. In order to crank it, I stepped on a sumac trunk and held it down, The case started, the crank hit my knee, spun e aroud, and I started walking aaway fromit and the house a dz steps or so before I realized I was going the wrong way. Another time I killed it right in a fence line. I backed myself int the fence as best I could and started cranking. It caught, and the crank came across my chest in an arc. Both Hurt Lke Helll. One accident I didnt have, I was hauling locust posts up a hill to lay them out in a fence line. I had a F-20 with a cross bar at the front of the drawbar. The posts was stuck under the front bar, and over the drawbar. As I went up the hill, I thought I felt the tractor rise, and pushed in the clutch. it stopped and the front end came down. I sat there a minute thinking and figured I was nuts, cause if it was going to come up running, why didnt it come upsetting stil (I was a kid in my early 20s then( Im 56 now). I killed it for some reason, and so I got down and off o start it up, When I raised the crank up to start it, I brought the tractor up a bit also. Then I took soe pof the posts off and made a second trip

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Dave in GA

08-12-2003 06:37:59




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
As the originator of this post, I do not understand the paranoia about me being an ambulance chaser or the post being gruesome. Operating tractors and other farm machinery involves hazards. My interests are not in the area of gore, but in accident prevention and safety. We learn from our experiences and the experiences of other in a powerful way.

In my opinion, one of the primary values of this discussion board is the sharing of stories of accidents and close calls in order to caution others and, hopefully, prevent mishaps. Let me give an example. Recently, there have been posts about exploding batteries, fortunately with no serious injuries resulting. Several people responded, sharing similar experiences and offering tips on safe battery handling and inspection/maintenance of the charging system. Personally, my awareness of the battery hazard is increased, and I have altered the way I handle batteries and work around them as a result. To give another example, there have been many posts about the dangers of hand cranking, along with reports of mishaps that occurred. This stresses the importance of safety and correct technique. One can view this as gruesome, gory, and inappropriate, but I prefer to ask how the mishap could have been prevented, and learn from it. Another series of posts that come to mind have to do with the question of pinning the drawbar or allowing it to swivel. The wise responses from experienced operators may spare someone more than a bad hair day.

Farming and operating dangerous machinery is not for the squeamish. The hazards and risks are significant. Accidents do happen. One of the highest values of this forum is the rich community of seasoned veterans who have a wealth of information to share. I am grateful for them. Much of this information is in the form of safety tips. Their sharing and advice has been immeasurable, undoubtedly having spared many other YT folks the misfortunes that they once experienced. The "Been there, done that, don't make the mistake I made" dialog has no equal.

To repeat tlak's comment, it is a necessary evil to remind ourselves and each other of the dangers we face and our need to be careful. This was the intent of my message.

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paul

08-12-2003 12:04:20




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 Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-12-2003 06:37:59  
I always force myself to read the 'latest accident' messages. Keeps reminding me to not take shortcuts.

Your original message was worded in such a way that I have just stayed away from this thread. While I agree with the intent you express in this followup message, your first one seemed to just open up a can of worms - "Hey, just how gory & ugly a mess have you made of things? I want to hear all about it?"

My uncle backed over his 2 year old child's head with the farm truck. They drove him to the hospital with a caved in head, dead, themselves. I can think of nothing worse than that. I really don't want to talk about it, either. (If anyone else does, maybe do some soul-searching on the direction of your life?)

A classmate of mine was converted to be left-handed. His right hand they dumped in the grove in little flakes, along with the rest of the silage in the wagon. He was 4 at the time.

My neighbor years ago had a buck saw come off a tractor & slice off his leg. He bled to death while his young son was trying to hold his belt around his dad's stump.

To me these are gory stories, and I don't see the value of discussing them in this discussion area. It seemed like you are more after shock value, than educational value. I took it as you wanted the bad details.

Now, we could talk about how dangerous buck saws are, and if you have a home-made one be sure the arbor nut screws on so that it always tightens itself. Really bad things can happen if it does not....

Or we can talk about how dangerous any machinery is when kids are around.

I see good value in that.

But I don't see value in just discussing what the 'worst injury' ever was. Yuk.

--->Paul

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VaTom

08-11-2003 18:43:52




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
No gore here.

I split a tractor today working by myself, nobody else on the mountain. When it comes to the separation, I've heard enough stories to know to take it slow and easy. And I don't assume the hydraulic jacks are going to hold it up and never have a problem while I'm under the tractor.

Shoot, if I go through the trouble to repair it, I sure want to be around to drive it later.



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49 Cubber!

08-11-2003 12:56:19




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
Lost my 2nd cousin under a bushhog!Picked him up in peices,and the tractor was found upside down about 200 yard away!Gruesome enough for ya!



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Dan H

08-11-2003 15:32:49




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 Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to 49 Cubber!, 08-11-2003 12:56:19  
Neighbor drove over his 4 year old grandson with a dozer. 6 months later he committed suicide.



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Okla/Kans Bill

08-12-2003 11:40:48




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 Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dan H, 08-11-2003 15:32:49  

Did that happen n NE Kansas. I remember that happening up there 25 yrs ago or so. Perhaps in this case it was is own boy, Im not sure



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Dan H

08-12-2003 13:06:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 08-12-2003 11:40:48  
Happened in the Emporia area about 4-5 years ago. The grandfather never forgave himself, the boy had been riding with him earlier in the day and came running when he heard the dozer fire up after lunch. He never even knew the boy was around until after he had backed over him at least once.

That has been one of my biggest fears since then that I will hit one of my own kids that runs out of nowhere wanting to ride with me in a tractor or combine. Years and years ago (1974?) a neighbor where I grew up hit his daughter when the rear of a 6 bottom plow swung around while driving up his lane. She broke several bones and had to learn to walk again afterwards. A farm is a great place to grow up but it can be damn dangerous.

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Okla/Kans Bill

08-12-2003 13:23:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dan H, 08-12-2003 13:06:55  

yup, what u say is right. Another one I remember, took 10 yrs ofa my life right there. I was using a 3 section brillon rollar packer. Not the heavy one but the old open setion one that had a toothed wheel next to a wheel with a flange. The neighbors wife and her kids came over to visit the wife. As I was comming up i the field the kids all , my 2 included came out and asked if they could ride the packer and sit on the tractor. I said no, thats how their unc le got killed, on a WC Allis my dad was driving, so I told them to get back to the house and they went. I turned around and started back down the field, went about 30ft and heard a scream. Hit the brakes and turned around and they were taking the oldest girl up to the house, She was walking, so I went down to the end and came back and went up to the house. Thats where I found that she had run up behind me, jumped on the packer and somhow fell forward and got ran over by it. Nothing more than scratches. I guess the deep plowed and disced and harrowed sandy field cushioned her somhow, But by the grace of God she shoulda had her head popped, she was around 12. like I said, it took 10 yrs offa my life, and nw I aint got them to spare

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Dan H

08-12-2003 13:47:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 08-12-2003 13:23:16  
I like to stop before leaving the yard with a tractor and make my phone calls on the cell before I leave to work in the field. It just seems to work better that way as I can order fuel, parts, call the bank, and whatever and if I need info I can run to the house or machine shed to get a part # or account # and not be half way across the county. Its a habit I started when I first started using a cell phone. Twice I have been within an instant of lifting my foot off the clutch and looked down to see my own 4 year old looking up with a big smile and arms up raised hoping I'll open the cab door and take him with me, standing right by the step directly in front of the tire. It would kill me if that was my last glimpse of him before a tire went over him.

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sod

08-11-2003 16:21:56




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 Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dan H, 08-11-2003 15:32:49  
How could a four year old commit suicide only six months after being run over with a tractor?

Get rid of this post, please. It's obviously some ambulance chaser posted this to get evidence for some groundless lawsuit.
good luck
sod



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tlak

08-11-2003 16:33:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to sod, 08-11-2003 16:21:56  
I didn’t read it different than how it was said. The Neighbor committed suicide. I think these posts are a necessary evil to remind use to be careful



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gruesome post can we remo

08-11-2003 11:39:55




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 Re: What Was The Worst Injury? in reply to Dave in GA, 08-11-2003 10:53:13  
Can we remove this please



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