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Scrap your old equipment?

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Joel

04-05-2004 06:52:50




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I don't like to see old equipment going to the scrap yard, but it is happening. The scrap yards are giving $6 per 100 pounds currently in this area. This is getting the scrap guys going to the auctions and buing anything that is going cheap. For example: there was an auction in Albers, IL last week. They had a lot of old equipment such as plows, discs, harrows, sickle mowers and other equipment that is not in high demand. A lot of the equipment was in good shape and went fairly cheap. I didn't buy any of it because I didn't need it. I went back the next day to pick up something that I did buy and noticed a huge dumpster there with most of the old machinery loaded inside. I checked around and found that a local junk man had bought the equipment for scrap. I can't see how he can make that much money off of it, but all that equipment will be a Toyota pretty soon. If the high scrap prices stay up, it's going to be getting hard to find some of this old equipment.

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John S-B

04-05-2004 19:05:01




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
It's good to get rid of some stuff if there's no use for it at all but it is a shame to just scrap stuff because it's not new. When Granpa died all his old stuff was sold for scrap, couple of ferguson tractors that ran when they where parked, plows, combine, almost 80 years of stuff all for $2000. My uncle realized later it was a mistake. If you have some stuff that is in the way offer it up here first and if you can't find someone here who will buy it for scrap or more if it's worth it, then sell it to the junk man. As for demand I used to work for Buckeye steel for a bit and scrap is all they use. They make couplers, bolsters and truck frames for railroad cars, all from recycled steel.

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paul

04-05-2004 10:47:02




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
There is a line at the scrap yard that rivels the fall line at the grain elevator the past month. People are cashing in on the iron. Going to be hard to find 'good old' equipment in 2-3 years.

It won't be a Toyota - it's going to China. Going to be small poorly cast China tractor. :)

--->Paul



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Brian

04-05-2004 10:27:53




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
I am getting ready to take in some scrap. Can someone tell me what "prepared" scrap is vs. regular scrap. From what I understand, in my area "prepared" scrap is worth around $190 a ton, but regular scrap is only worth $90 a ton.

Thanks,
Brian



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mark

04-05-2004 14:15:45




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 Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Brian, 04-05-2004 10:27:53  
Prepared scrap is clean,seperated and cut into 3'-4' lengths. Length may vary from yard to yard,so check first.



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Brian

04-06-2004 11:06:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to mark, 04-05-2004 14:15:45  
Thanks for the reply. Do you think cutting an 9' x 12' oil storage tank down that small would be worth it? I may just cut it in half and say forget it.

Brian



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paul

04-05-2004 10:50:36




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 Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Brian, 04-05-2004 10:27:53  
Probably slightly different at different yards, but generally good quality (no coated tin, galv wire, etc.) of smaller size with no oil, rubber, plastic involved.

Good meltable iron of a 'dumpable' size to dump straight into the melter pot is what they are looking for.

--->Paul



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dhermesc

04-05-2004 14:01:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to paul, 04-05-2004 10:50:36  
Actually there are so many junk piles on 3rd - 4th generation farms I think its good that there is finally a market for the old scrap. My brother cleaned up a 90 year accumulation of old equipment, hog feeders, and old fencing in one afternoon. Cleaned the place up and made about $3000. All you have to do is look at the price of rebar, fence posts and barb wire and you'll know why there is suddenly a demand for scrap.

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Ludwig

04-05-2004 15:06:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to dhermesc, 04-05-2004 14:01:05  
Lord yes. My great grandfather was the village blacksmith, theres so much junk iron on my farm you can't dig a hole anywhere. We've started making a pile of better stuff in one area. When we get a couple tons put out we'll have it hauled. Figure even at $45 a ton hauled I'll make out. Got about 1/2 ton already.



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John Ne.

04-05-2004 10:15:17




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
Just remember that even with the scrap drives of WWII, which in some areas took everything that wasn't being used, and you had to prove you were using it, there is still stuff out there. Some will survive. John in Nebr.



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buck

04-05-2004 08:58:30




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  

Local scrap yard that has been piled high for as long as I can remember is almost level to the ground now.



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I Like Case

04-05-2004 08:18:45




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
The local yard is(was) piled high with old equipment. A year ago I bought a couple of complete tractors at scrap price-iron wasn't worth much a year ago. There was a lot more stuff there that I wanted but never had the time to get it. I know-poor excuse. Now all that beautiful "junk" is headed for the smelter.



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Jonathan

04-05-2004 07:57:45




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 Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Joel, 04-05-2004 06:52:50  
I don't see why so many people are into hauling scap?. There never has been any real money in it and it isn't super easy money either, because loading heavy steel things for a living isn't exactly a coushy job. That old stuff may not be worth much, but try pricing a new replacement at a dealer. Old equipment is going to disapear, and whats going to happen when nobody can afford new?.



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rk

04-05-2004 10:10:43




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 Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Jonathan, 04-05-2004 07:57:45  
no real money in scrap? i cut 4 hours last weekend for a $240. check. i didn't think that was too bad. not anything that great for weight either. price was $115 ton at that time but did drop to $90. RK



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Jonathan

04-05-2004 10:14:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to rk, 04-05-2004 10:10:43  
Yes, theres good money in it now, but there sure wasn't not too long ago. The local scrap yard used to charge if you wanted to leave your old farm machinery a year or two ago, and people used to try to haul scrap for a living then.



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steveormary

04-05-2004 09:56:05




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 Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Jonathan, 04-05-2004 07:57:45  
Price of new will come down?

steve



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Ben in KY

04-05-2004 13:02:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to steveormary, 04-05-2004 09:56:05  
Don't count on it coming down much, after all, something has to make our economy grow :)



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Larry

04-05-2004 18:43:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Ben in KY, 04-05-2004 13:02:04  
With all the scrap going out of this country, ( I've heard mostly to China ) that is why the cost of steel here is getting out of sight. Nothing for the last of the US mills here to reuse. Have you priced a bolt lately !!!!! !!



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steveormary

04-05-2004 20:07:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Larry, 04-05-2004 18:43:21  
Retired,sold out,moved to the south of NM not too far from the Rio Grande. Stufff has gone up alot over the last few years. I need to get some hardware to fix a gate. I will find out how much stuff has gone up. Thanks for the replies.

steve



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steveormary

04-05-2004 20:06:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Scrap your old equipment? in reply to Larry, 04-05-2004 18:43:21  
Retired,sold out,moved to the south of NM not too far from the Rio Grande. Stufff has gone up alot over the last few years. I need to get some hardware to fix a gate. I will find out how much stuff has gone up. Thenks for the replies.

steve



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