METERED well water

Paul in Mich - There isn't any free stuff here we pay for everything and then some. and then they dream up another tax (oops service charge) taxes don't go up here just ask our Primier he promised, in the last election no tax increases.

The only problem with our health system is greed, Taxes - a percentage of federal & provincial lotteries help fund hospitals - The $25 - $50 - $100 a ticket hospital lottreies - Million $$ building Funds - look at the name plaques in just about any hospital donated by .... also a lot of equipment - excessive parking rates - During a building drive our trusted county officials gave the local hospital 7 million then put it on our tax bill. After the building is done they will bill the government $1500+ a day for a bed, plus you must bring your own personal items they do supply toilet paper but I'm sure you'll have to bring that soon. Please point me in the direction to free prescriptions. It's not FREE!.

OBDIII mandates that all vehicles have a hidden, non-defeatable GPS integrated into the power management computer. If your car/truck starts to emit pollutants, the government sends you a notice. If you speed, you get mailed a ticket. If you are the subject of a cop chase, your license number, tied into the FBI's database, is used to remotely turn off your ignition and lock your doors. If you don't make a car payment, insurance payment, or get your license gets suspended, your car will not start. If you get into an accident, your entire driving history is immediately available to the cops and the courts. At all times, the actual location of your vehicle is known to the FBI and they will use AI (artificial intelligence) computers to look at your driving pattern to determine if you are doing something suspicious.

George Orwell was an altar boy compared to these fascists.

Since 1996 all autos have the OBDII system that tracks your traffic accident info. Any time you have a accident that sets the air bags or seat belt tension and ?, It records the last 15 seconds of vechile speed, braking time, Vin #, and?.

If you had OnStar then all the above info with GPS info was transmitted to OnStar via satellite. Anyone with a factory code reader could access this info via the puter port on the vechile, ie; police, insurrance companys, etc.

Since 2002 all vehiles now have GPS plus the above and ?. The info is automaticly downloaded to the mfg and too ??? via satellite without your consent or knowledge.

Starting in 2000, all cellular phones have GPS and some phones before 2000 had GPS. Works with the phone off or on. All cell phones will call 911 without being active or paying for air time.

Do a search on the OBDII system as it's amazing what they can do with it.

T_Bone

I simply cannot understand why the do-gooders haven't came up with a "Flush Tax" yet.

Seems to me that this would really be a winner for the politicians as everyone would get to contribute. :>)

Allan

They lent the farmers money and installed a 300 mile main cannel from the Colorado river South. Expensive water for the farmers and they have to pay for the water weather they use it or not.

That forced several thousand acers of prime farm land to sell out for the track homes near Phoenix. Tribal land surrounds the the prime Farm land and butts up too S. Phoenix. That means any expansion of S. Phoenix has to jump over the tribal land into the prime farm land area.

Domestic well water for human consumtion, they limited well output to 35gpm maximum and raised the detectable minerals to where most wells can't pass without water treatment. Now most community wells just lable the well domestic animal use to keep from having treat the water.

They send a State Water Board guy around each year for a suprise well inspection. I've seen him use a clamp on ampmeter to tell GPM output. I just hope they don't think of using water meters here.

T_Bone

If you think you live in a free society, spank one of your children, then recite to me from your jail cell how free this land is. :>)

Allan

OK so let me get this straight. The city/county is having you put a meter on your water well that is on your property and is for your private use. Never heard of such nonsense. What is the purpose of this meter? To tax you per gallon or to limit your use or both?

While I could under stand this on a commercial well such as the bottle water wells in our area I thought if you owned land you own the mineral rights for said land. Water is just another mineral (like oil) and the only one that may even come close to claiming owner ship of water you pump out would be your neighbor and then only if you were pumping large amounts.

Would never work in our area. We get 5 to 6 inches of rain a month and I can take you to camps that still get all water from house roof. Lets see 2500 sq ft house x 6" of rain = 1250cu ft of water per month. What they going to do tax rain next????? ????

I have never paid a cent in property taxes in my life. And yes I do own property. 5 acres. My homestead exemption covers my entire tax bill though.

I'm on a septic field so metering tank pumpouts wouldn't work thankfully! Besides most of my well water goes for livestock or for watering the garden and orchard. I haul my drinking water from a municipal well due to a high iron content in my own.

Water is in such abundant supply in our area guess no one has ever thought of getting rights to it. City water comes from Yankee rain (Mississippi River) or city wells. Lot of people with large 12" and larger wells around here. Rice; Catfish; Crawfish farmers and bottle water wells. We have more of a problem with keeping dry than finding water but I know if it keeps up they may one day deplete supply.

As far as water and timber go you sell land you lose. Have seen land for sale that says $700. per acre + timber value. But this just means you give me $700 and I cut before sale or you buy all out right. Your choice. How can some one sell land with out timber rights?
I buy 100 acres from you but you keep timber rights. So what if I want to clear land in 5 years. You tell me timber is not proper size for cutting. I own land but can not use it because your timber is growing on my land. Sorry that does not make sense; or am I missing something here?

With mineral and timber rights, that happens just up north of you all the time. We had a state constitiutional amendment a few years ago, people sold their mineral rights (coal mainly, some clay) back in the 19 teens, before strip mining. They could come in and strip mine your farm for the coal. Change required them to use method in place when the rights were sold (deep mining).

Land sold without timber rights, you bet. (New) landowner cant clear it until I cut my timber, I know some land right now in that shape. Someone bought the timber by the boundary and the buyer made sure their wasnt a deadline in his contract to when he had to harvest. He paid $100,000 for the timber and offered to sell his contract to the new owner for $500,000 (3 years later).

Mineral rights are also usually a seperate entity from land here. My wife still owns full oil and mineral rights to a bunch of farm land that her family owned at the turn of the last century and sold in the 1950's. It's worthless unless oil or potash or some type of ore is ever discovered there, then it could be worth a fortune.

This also happens a lot on old mining claims. They'll sell the land, but not the mineral rights.

Gravel rights are protected in the same way. You can buy land, but if it has a gravel pit, someone else may well own the rights to said gravel.

All of these rights can be bought and sold, but very seldom are they included when you buy land.

Stick

I expect that there will be a lot of clandistine wells put as this becomes more common, at least where the water tables are shallow enough for home brew well drilling.

I envision two wells. One for metering with a small amount of usage, the other for higher volume usage.

Maybe this will become the way to tax hydrogen fuel should it become readily available.

All water wells are licensed by the state, have a GPS location, a mandatory well report (depth, soil type, casing, etc) and initial water quality test. These are public records.

If the meter man comes in my yard threatening to put a meter on my well, he's going to be floating in a well by nightfall.

Enough of all this government intruding. I'm sick of it and everyone needs to speak out every chance they get to legislators, representatives, senators, governors, and anyone that will listen.

steve

I have had my share of whisky and water and yes,it did mix well. Dont need that no more,I have had the same woman now going onto 36 years.

steve