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Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested

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linx

07-12-2004 02:18:23




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Tips are requested for making flat (without ridges)and fine granule soil seedbed with Tandem Disk after chisel.




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Ed

07-12-2004 10:44:17




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 Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested in reply to linx, 07-12-2004 02:18:23  
It's easy you need a big board like a 4x6 or I beam like Hugh mentioned.

On my small wheel disk I took two pipes and bent then at a 45 degree angel (cut & welded back together and fish plated).

At one end I weleded two pieces of flat steel in the same direction and the 45 degree bend to the pipe.

Places it ofer the frame (angle iron) of my IH disk and drilled a hole through the flat stock and through the disk's frame and bolted it together - not two tight so it could swing like a hinge.

Repeated with the other pipe. Note the bolt was on the outer frame member that supports the wheels.

On the back end of the pipe the part touching the ground - welded two pieces of angle iron on each pipe then bolted on a 4 X 6. The 4x6 was about a foot wider than the disk on each side.

Taking 4 pieces of angle iron about a foot and a half long drilled holes on one side of each piece every 1/2 inch.

Took the 4 pieces of angle iron and welded them to the back frame of the disk on each side of the pipe with the holes facing each other. Note the frame member runs perpendictulat to the pipe.

Put a bolt through the holes to keep pressure on the 4x6 - having the holes every 1/2 inch allows adjustment.

Disk the ground with out the bolts to really till the soil. On the second pass reinstall the bolts and only have the disk penetrate a few inches. With some practice and adjustment it should come out as smooth as can be.

Note: driving slower also smothes out the ground better.

On my larger White disk I created a box out of 3X3 channel instead of the two pipes for additional strength.

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Bill(Wis)

07-12-2004 07:18:05




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 Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested in reply to linx, 07-12-2004 02:18:23  
I use a Brillion pulvi-mulcher after chisel. It makes a perfect seed bed in one pass every time.



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Rick

07-12-2004 06:38:09




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 Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested in reply to linx, 07-12-2004 02:18:23  
What was the ground when you chiseled it. Grass,cornstalks etc. This will make difference. Also did chisel have straight or curved shovels that also makes difference. What you want to do is basically just float the disk not to deep and if you have no harrow attachment it will be still little ridgeed. I would depending on disk size try just dragging a cattle panel,chain link fence section. The I beams if you have much trash will become a dump rake effect. If you do not have alot of trash I would use a harrowgatro harrow instead and forget the disk period. The offset disk is not what you want to use because it is a deep tillage tool. You would have used it instead of the chisel you used. I have one of those harrowgator harrows for sale if that would help. Go to www.RickSales. com and look under used equipment catergory.

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Hugh MacKay

07-12-2004 04:26:11




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 Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested in reply to linx, 07-12-2004 02:18:23  
linx: The disk will leave ridges as suggested, chain or spike tooth harrows behind disk work well. If you want a quick cheap fix get an I beam, chanel iron or timber about two feet longer than disk is wide, and pull it cross ways behind disk with two chains, one at each end.

Another idea I saw a guy using was truck tires bolted together through the face of tire and pulled behind disk with pull bar much like a chain harrow. This guy had three rows of tires with center row fitted into hollows created between tires on front and back rows. The truck tires were also doing a nice job of levelling, as they would pick up soil on high spots and deposit in hollows.

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Linx

07-12-2004 06:11:29




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 Re: Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips reques in reply to Hugh MacKay, 07-12-2004 04:26:11  
How about Packer Roller?



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Hugh MacKay

07-13-2004 03:44:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips re in reply to Linx, 07-12-2004 06:11:29  
Linx: Preparing a good level seedbed is much like grading a gravel road. Unless you make the tillage cuts as deep as the deepest depression in soil, then spread all the loose material into a level plane, your bumps, hummocs and hollows will still be there. All the rolling in the world will never take out unlevel soil.



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hay

07-12-2004 02:29:52




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 Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips requested in reply to linx, 07-12-2004 02:18:23  
the tandem disk will leave ridges no matter how it is angled. use a spike tooth harrow and a drag behind the disking and it will be smoother. best seedbed comes from using a tiller.



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Linx

07-12-2004 06:13:13




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 Re: Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips reques in reply to hay, 07-12-2004 02:29:52  
Will Offset Disk be better in this respect (Leaving less ridges)?



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JT

07-12-2004 09:12:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tips re in reply to Linx, 07-12-2004 06:13:13  
offset disks (at least the ones in my area) are considerably more aggressive so I would say no.

If you are trying to get rid of the ridge in the middle of the disc some companies had a middle buster that fixed that. Usually a field cultivator sweep in the center of the disc.

BTW why are you trying to get the ground perfectly level? If you are planting field crops that would be about the last thing I would do. Have some neighbors in my area that work the ground to death and this spring the wind blew, ditches and fencerows are now full of dirt from their fields. Real mess!! If you are putting in lawn or grass for a sod farm I would suggest seeding and go over with a roller after. If it is pasture or hay mother nature will take care of it when it rains.

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JT

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supermpuller4

07-12-2004 14:24:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Seedbed preparation with disk; Tip in reply to JT, 07-12-2004 09:12:14  
A 496 IH disk will leave no ridges, put a rolling basket behind it and you can plant a garden, level and firm.



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