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JD Jim A.

09-29-2004 19:31:38




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I was at a tractor pull that ran well into the night recently, and noticed a couple of Internationals with brighter than normal headlights and worklights. Where do I get these bulbs? Got a 1066 at home that could use a set.




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Bus Driver

09-30-2004 16:52:28




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to JD Jim A., 09-29-2004 19:31:38  
For field working, are brighter than the normal sealed beams any advantage? I rarely work at more than 4 MPH, road speed is not more than 16 MPH for me. The sealed beams have been sufficient for those applications. My old 6 volt tractors with the 1133 bulbs do seem a bit dim by comparison. But stronger lights would require changing to 12 volts and some folks view that dimly- pardon the pun.



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T_Bone

09-29-2004 23:10:40




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to JD Jim A., 09-29-2004 19:31:38  
Hi Jim,

Some of the guys are tieing the high and low beams together for running lites on newer F250/F350.

They make a special high wattage plug with increased wiring size to handle the extra amps. About $35 for the harness if I remember correct.

I haven't seen any threads to drawbacks of using this method.

T_Bone



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Heat Houser

09-29-2004 21:56:34




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to JD Jim A., 09-29-2004 19:31:38  
Were they High Intensity Discharge (HID) lights?
Around $450 each.



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buickanddeere

09-29-2004 19:55:27




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to JD Jim A., 09-29-2004 19:31:38  
Depends on the voltage applied and how rusty/dirty the return path is back through the fenders.



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Ray,IN

09-29-2004 20:46:26




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to buickanddeere, 09-29-2004 19:55:27  
Brighter bulbs are available, but first follow buckanddeere's advice and make sure you have a solid ground path back to the battery. Most all tractors use body sheet metal and drive train castings for ground. Search the net for replacement 12V bulbs. I once found a chart listing the standard bulbs and the corresponding brighter replacement. That was however, prior to crashing my computer by downloading XP's SP2 incorrectly.

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Leland

09-29-2004 20:55:19




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Ray,IN, 09-29-2004 20:46:26  
Drove some 8650s for this farmer we had 12 volt aircraft landing lights on them. when working a 1/4 mile off hi way people would flash there lights thinking we were on coming traffic. But every thing looked white bacause of brightness and made working in real dry fields a challange at night you could lose your place easy.



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Bus Driver

09-30-2004 04:14:06




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Leland, 09-29-2004 20:55:19  
The landing lights usually have a short service life. Some of them are rated for 25 hours. Ordinary lights are 1000 to 2500 hours. But the landing light would be bright!



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Leland

09-30-2004 05:50:46




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Bus Driver, 09-30-2004 04:14:06  
your right they don't like rough handling, but you can csee a mile at night. And they make enough heat you can warm up your dinner with one.But motorists hated them ,and we ran them in field only.



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Allan in NE

09-30-2004 05:27:43




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Bus Driver, 09-30-2004 04:14:06  
Aw....Comon' now,

Can't buy into that one.

Allan



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Bus Driver

09-30-2004 09:54:31




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 05:27:43  
For service life ratings, refer to the manufacturers published information. That's what I did.



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Leland

09-30-2004 05:46:53




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 05:27:43  
Allen no bull,but it might help you belive when you realize this was a poor farmer he could only afford 1 airplane. but try a pair at night you could see an elk a mile away.



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Allan in NE

09-30-2004 06:22:18




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Leland, 09-30-2004 05:46:53  
Mornin' Leland,

You misunderstood; yes I understand the increased lighting effects of aircraft landing lights.

What I am questioning is the short 25-hour life expectancy of the things. Those landing lights are pretty darned tough! :>)

Allan



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Leland

09-30-2004 14:41:30




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 06:22:18  
The reason for short life I belive all the dust that got on them did not let heat escape like a clean lense,



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Stickler

09-30-2004 06:50:57




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Allan in NE, 09-30-2004 06:22:18  
They're basically the same bulb as what's in a KC Dayliter off-road light. I have a set on my Suburban that date back to 1978 that have literally thousands of hours of bashing and crashing off road. In fact, you want a rough tough light, that's 300,000cp at 150W each, they literally light up the area like daylight! They draw 12 amps each though, so you best have a big alternator. Never thought about putting them on the tractor.

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Leland

09-30-2004 14:44:18




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Stickler, 09-30-2004 06:50:57  
Your right there was always a rebuilt alternator on shelf in parts bin. some tractors had 4 on the front and 1 on back



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john in la

09-30-2004 07:36:30




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Stickler, 09-30-2004 06:50:57  
Wouldn’t those lights basically be the same thing as the adjustable spot lights on say a police car or a big truck.
I think they are about 1 million candle power. I know they are bright.



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Ben in KY

09-30-2004 11:25:45




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to john in la, 09-30-2004 07:36:30  
I wonder what the current draw on those suckers are. Might draw more than the generator/alternator can put out and kill your engine after a while. On a gasser anyway :)



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john in la

09-30-2004 13:53:36




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Ben in KY, 09-30-2004 11:25:45  
I do not know but they only have a 12 or 14 gauge wire to them. Can not be to much. The 2 on my truck can be run for 30 to 45 min. plus all the clearance lights on and with the engine off. After that time I have no trouble cranking motor but we do have 3 batteries.
We use them as a spot light to light up the area while unloading at night.



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Stickler

09-30-2004 17:42:54




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to john in la, 09-30-2004 13:53:36  
I have my 150 watters wired with 8ga through a relay, because the combined 24 amps is borderline even on a HD switch. I run it all thru a relay wired direct to battery. 150 watters draw near 12 amps each!



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Stickler

09-30-2004 09:42:32




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to john in la, 09-30-2004 07:36:30  
We have those on our line trucks too, for the linemen working at night. They won't hold an adjustment when you're bouncing around though. The KC's aren't quite that bright, but they're shock mounted and really take a pounding.



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john in la

09-30-2004 13:55:33




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 Re: Brighter tractor headlights in reply to Stickler, 09-30-2004 09:42:32  
I did not mean using them in the adjustable mount.
I wonder if they could be put into a headlight bracket.



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