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Lisa Pickering

11-08-2004 12:28:15




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Hi! My dad recently got me interested in tractors and I'm very new to this world. Can anyone reccomend a good "starter" tractor for someone just getting started? I have a limited amount of mechanical experience, but I am a quick learner and have several willing and able teachers. I am interested in a Ford 9n and 8n and/or an International Farmall, but I am open to suggestion! Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! :)

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Frank Kovarick

11-13-2004 23:34:26




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
I'd suggest your going to page 1 in this series for topic "tractor recommendations" and read, with interest since one is mine, the replies there regarding the N series of Fords and other options with just a few years later models.



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Scott E.

11-12-2004 18:22:10




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
I bought one just like my grandpappys. Farmall A. Mows the grass, gardens, and moves stuff around the property. Great little tractor.



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leland

11-09-2004 15:31:38




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Simple buy the one you like.



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gwb

11-09-2004 15:26:02




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Lisa, where are you located? If you have a good club in your area, and it is type-specific (i.e., John Deere) that can be a great boon for
a beginner.

The Fords are wonderful, but they also seem to have gotten pricey of late. That's fair--- stock,
they have the utility of a wide front and a
3-point hitch.

On the other hand, they don't have a lot of extra
horsepower.

If you're going to use it for work, especially with a bush-hog (rotary mower) there is much to
be said for 'live hydraulics' and 'live PTO.' On
Fords, that means taking a pass on the 8-, 2-, and 9-Ns and looking to a 'Jubilee' or 'NAA.' That raises the price.

On the other hand, these features can be found in a Farmall 300 or 350, or an International
300 or 340 Utility for cheap.

They may lack 'panache' this year, but in 10 years they will be positively 'vintage.'

(I have an IHC 300U, FWIW. Not because it was the perfect choice but because it was the best of what was available locally. Wonderful machine.
You'll be happier if you realize that they are
all pretty neat, and stay out of the 'red versus
green' wars.)

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cockshuttguy

11-11-2004 10:04:38




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to gwb, 11-09-2004 15:26:02  
Lisa,
Do you like persian orange? If so, an Allis Chalmers B is a good starter. Also, it has a two person seat that is excellent for a significant other or family pet that likes to ride with their favorite friend. I was raised on a B and have spent many an hour in the fields with a friend riding or the ole cow dog who liked tractors.
Lastly, the B is an excellent puller and you could enter the ole girl in an antique pulling contest and probably win or make an excellent showin.
Good Luck in your quest
God Bless,

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infogatherer

11-08-2004 14:50:00




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Lisa, any tractor you desire is a worthy restoration. All depends on money, space, condition of the tractor, and if youre up to it. I'm 14 and going to restore my grandma's 140 JD lawn mower. If that turns out ok I might start on my uncles 1456 international. Then some 4020 JD's, 1939 farmall H and a 1968 ford torino GT.



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Dave_Id

11-08-2004 14:05:13




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Everyone seemed to forget the "gotta have factor". You will know when you see the one you want. Either you have to have it, or you can live with out it.



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Brian in NY

11-08-2004 13:26:00




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
In terms of pure fun, any of the big name makes is gonna make you happy. IH/Farmall, Ford, John Deere, Massey Ferguson, Oliver, Case, Allis Chalmers, etc.

Massey Fersuson 35's are a neat little tractor, and dead reliable. Ford N series like an 8n or even their 600/800/900 series were pretty reliable too.

Farmall A, B, C, H, and M are icons and besides being very reliable, they are easy to work on.

John deere two cylinder tractors are fun too.

If you give us more specifics (what you are using it for, what you want to spend, we can give you better advice).

Welcome to the wonderful world of Yesterday's Tractors....you are certain to make some good friends as part of this venture!

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TimV

11-08-2004 13:12:56




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Lisa: The biggest question is what do you plan to use your tractor for? If you're looking at restoring a tractor, then any of the ones you mentioned will work fine--parts are readily availible, they're simple to work on, and there's lots of advice and support availible on this site and eleswhere. If you have specific tasks in mind that you want to use the tractor for then you will want to pare the list down somewhat. For instance, the Farmall A and Cub are wonderful tractors (I own one of each) but aren't the best if you're looking at mounting a front end loader. Similarly, the Ford 8N (or 9N or 2N) are also excellent tractors, but a bit light for "serious" farm work. On the flip side, the Farmall H and M are both good candidates for restoration, but they're a bit large for many garages. Taking some time to identify your needs and expectations will reward you with a tractor that's a good fit for you. Restoring, fixing, and operating old tractors is a great hobby, but you want to be sure you've done your homework or you may be disappointed.

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JT

11-08-2004 13:03:07




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
My .02 worth. If you are looking for a tractor to play with, get a Farmall Cub, A, C, or an H. I guess it is all a matter of opinion, but I find the Farmalls are simpler to work with and on if needed. Engines are easier to get apart if needed. I had a 9N, always wanted one. Needed an overhaul, was not at all easy compared to the Farmalls I have rebuilt. The only advantage of the N series is the 3 point hitch. My opinion, but whatever you get, welccome to the wacky world of old iron. P.S. My 17 year old daughter wants a 1206 International.

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Evan350

11-08-2004 12:46:14




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
In terms of tractors sold, right behind the Ford N series is the Farmall H. Lots of them out there, so parts are no problem. If you want something in the Farmall line, but smaller in stature, look at the Cub, A or C.



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jhill

11-08-2004 12:42:55




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
A 9N, 2N or 8N Ford would be a great first time tractor. Easy to drive and work on parts are not real heavy to lift and parts are readily available. Also has a 3 pt hitch which makes it a very versatile tractor.

Guys on all these boards are all really helpful so check back if you need help.

Jerry



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Mark - IN.

11-09-2004 16:11:47




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to jhill, 11-08-2004 12:42:55  
Versatile Tractor? Did you say Versatile Tractor? Well, kind've big, certainly bigger than most, and definately bigger than a 9N, 2N, or 8N, but I guess could be ok as a first tractor. No job too big, nor too small - can always just run over anything. LOL.

Them old Fords that you mentioned are nice tractors, but no matter what she gets or wants, someone will know something helpful about it. She could just as easily go by her favorite color, there'll be one that'll probably be just fine.

Versatile, huh? I like that. LOL.

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jhill

11-09-2004 20:50:03




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Mark - IN., 11-09-2004 16:11:47  
I was not refering to the 4 wheel drive tractors I was refering to an N being useful for a lot of things. Geezz some peoples kids.



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Mark - IN.

11-09-2004 21:23:58




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to jhill, 11-09-2004 20:50:03  
Hey, I"ll have you know that my Mom still maintains that I must"ve been the milk lady"s kid. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I recently did a job with a guy that has a new articulated New Holland. I didn"t ask what he paid for it, but figure around $200K. I did guess at around 430HP, he corrected me - is 450HP. He also says will hit 12 MPH on the road - that"s movin" and too fast for me in that thing. It"s sharp - big and Ford blue with flames painted on the hood. I knew that New Holland absorbed Ford, but he says Versatile too. I didn"t know that. He used it to drag 2 scrapers, and it cake walked through it. That is a big tractor.

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jhill

11-10-2004 05:45:51




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Mark - IN., 11-09-2004 21:23:58  
Actually as part of the merger with Case-IH New Holland had to sell Versatile. SOme guy in Winnepeg bought it and was starting to make tractors again. I haven't seen any yet thought.

Have a good one.



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Peanut

11-08-2004 12:39:26




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Welcome Lisa. Check out the Ford 9N, 2N, 8N discussion board. Link is below. Lots of really good info about the tractors.

I have a 1940 9N. I bought mine real reasonable. Flathead engines are a snap to work on ... real easy. Electrical systems are also super simple. Mine was completely rebuilt when I bought it. It was alsready converted to 12v (even came with a stereo Jerry-rigged on it for bush-hogging entertainment). Mine came with a 5ft brush hog, back blade, box scraper, middle buster (single plow), and hitch draw bar. I wouldn't get rid of mine for anything although I must say that newer tractors have live PTO which mine does not. Takes soome getting used to but I operate mine safely so I am comfy with the setup.

While I sometimes wish I had 4 wheel drive and a front end loader, I just can't justify the expense. I just find other ways around what I want to dig or move.

Whatever you end up with, get yourself a shop manual and become real familiar with it. Get to know your parts dealer if you have one locally. Use these boards often as there is lots of knowledge out here. Everyone is real good about giving solid advice.

Drive safe and enjoy.

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alg

11-08-2004 12:38:24




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 Re: new to tractors in reply to Lisa Pickering, 11-08-2004 12:28:15  
Go with the 8n or 9n,parts are readily available and are easy to work on.



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