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Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket.

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old

11-26-2004 15:10:21




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Picked up a bale spike at an auction a few weeks ago and mounted it today. It one that mounts on the bucket with a lip catch and a bolt that holds it in about center of the bucket. Went to check it out and lifeted a bale up with no problem, but when I looked it over I noticed that I had ripped out the bucket. Guess its time to cut out the bottom of the bucket and weld in some new steel. Any idea how much it will cost for a piece of steel 16 inches by 5 foot by 1/4 inch

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Cliff Neubauer

11-27-2004 16:17:19




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 15:10:21  
We had a bale spike that slid over the front edge of the bucket and we ruined two buckets before we finally quit using it and made one that attaches right to the loader arms. Having the bale in front of the bucket is also harder on the tractor since it adds the weight of the bucket as well as it puts the bale out farther from the tractor.



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Brian Rett

11-27-2004 14:30:39




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 15:10:21  
Next time you put the spike on your bucket. If you have chain hooks on your it, take a chain and wrap it around the spike and hook it to the chain hooks. This will take some weight off the front of the bucket and put it on the loader.



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Redmud

11-27-2004 03:01:42




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 15:10:21  
I have replaced many cutting edge on loader buckets. I never bolted the edge on, always welded it on. It a stronger bucket if it"s welded on and the jobs done right.
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Willy-N

11-27-2004 07:49:14




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to Redmud, 11-27-2004 03:01:42  
You can Plug Weld the bolt holes and weld it to the bucket good also just harder to remove later if needed. Mark H.



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Willy-N

11-26-2004 18:00:41




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 15:10:21  
Probley around 100.00 but does your bucket have a good harden steel cutting edge? You might be able to get a Grader cutting edge used for less than that and beef up the bucket edge. They are about 1/2 to 3/4 inch thick and 4-6 inches wide. They bolt on with big flat head harden bolts. Then beef up the corners where it bolts in. Mark H.



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Carl S

11-26-2004 18:37:15




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 welding question for Willy-N in reply to Willy-N, 11-26-2004 18:00:41  
I have a 3' gravel bucket that goes on my Wagner loader. The cutting edge was worn back to the bucket so I asked a local welding shop about putting on a new edge for me. I had a nice piece of old snow plow cutting edge from a town truck that I thought would be a good replacement, but the welder said it was hardened steel and wouldn't weld. Is that true? Anyway, I gave him the bucket. He had to use a carbon arc torch to remove the old welds. There were 8 1" plugs holding the edge to the bucket. I know you're into making that boom, so I thought you might be able to answer my question. Are those hardened cutting edges weldable or not? Just curious.
Thanks.

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old

11-26-2004 19:28:20




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 Re: welding question for Willy-N in reply to Carl S, 11-26-2004 18:37:15  
Willy right its a waste of time to try to weld them, also good money. They just will not weld and hold no matter how you try.



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Willy-N

11-26-2004 18:42:30




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 Re: welding question for Willy-N in reply to Carl S, 11-26-2004 18:37:15  
There right I have seen them welded befor but the welds break later. Best to bolt them on so they can flex with out cracking the welds. Mark H.



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old

11-26-2004 18:09:17




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to Willy-N, 11-26-2004 18:00:41  
I keep grader blades laying around here all the time. I pick them up from the county shed for free. I will need to cut out the bottom of the bucket no matter what oh well I have put off fixing it all summer.



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Willy-N

11-26-2004 18:39:06




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 18:09:17  
I make Cow Scratcher Brush Posts out of the Sweeper Brushes from the County Shop. It pays to stay in good with them. I just sink a 6X6 in the ground and pile them over the top till they are high enough to work good. Mark H.



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old

11-26-2004 19:23:54




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to Willy-N, 11-26-2004 18:39:06  
With all the things I see you build I bet you would love the way I drive post in to the ground. I have a friends 950 Cat loader on the farm, I have my wife hold a post till I get the bucket on top of the post, then she walks away and I just push it in as far as I need it. Works better then any thing else I have used. Only problem I have had is when I hit a rock and the post explodes, doesn't happen often but when it does it sure does hurt the back pocket since I have to go get a new post. LOL

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Willy-N

11-26-2004 20:37:33




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 19:23:54  
I would like to build a steel stake pounder someday. I allready drove a few miles in by hand but it would be nice to let the tractor do it. A post hole auger would be nice too since I had to dig over 200 - 3 ft holes by hand for my 3 rail fence I put up a while back!! Getting to old for that cr@p anymore. Mark H.



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old

11-26-2004 21:03:34




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to Willy-N, 11-26-2004 20:37:33  
A post drill/auger isn't hard to build, I have one a friend built years ago. I also have a post drive but I don't use it, the cat is much faster. Some thing about a 40,000lbs machine being able to push down real hard.



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Willy-N

11-26-2004 21:41:17




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 21:03:34  
It is called totaly brute forse! Mark H.



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paul

11-26-2004 17:50:17




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to old, 11-26-2004 15:10:21  
I have never used one of those, but always like the models with the chain & load binder that wraps around the bucket. Seems it would support better on a weaker loader bucket.

--->Paul



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Harley

11-26-2004 20:35:48




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 Re: Mounted bale spike and then broke my bucket. in reply to paul, 11-26-2004 17:50:17  
Awcontrar. When I was working excavating equipment, I could get all the grader blades we "wore out" and I put one on a Hesston loader just fine. You have to trim the old cutting edge off so the grader blade will fit real tight, and wrap around the ends, but if you turn the stick welder up to about 150, you can melt the bucket into the grader blade and it will hold. Anyway it did for me. JM2CW, Later, Harley

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