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Rear tire ballast

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john-mi

12-15-2004 16:44:18




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Could anyone tell me which gives the most weight, cal-chloride or foam filling the rear tires. Trying to decide which way to go. Thanks.




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Midwest redneck

12-16-2004 02:05:00




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to john-mi, 12-15-2004 16:44:18  
A womam I work with bought a new Kubota and the dealer put beet juice in the tires for weight, I never heard of that B4. I guess it doesnt rot the rims. Foam would add almost no weight I would think.



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Bob

12-16-2004 08:20:59




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to Midwest redneck, 12-16-2004 02:05:00  
"Beet Juice" link:



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Leland

12-15-2004 22:11:28




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to john-mi, 12-15-2004 16:44:18  
John it depends if you go off road a lot then foam is not a good choice ,in soft ground it will sink like a rock been there. foam is heavy on a 544 deere loader I could pick up 80 railroad ties full height and rear would not lift,but the ride will go south if you spend 8 or more hours a day on a piece of equipment go fluid.



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old

12-15-2004 16:53:34




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to john-mi, 12-15-2004 16:44:18  
The fluid adds the most, foam filled almost no added weight.



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buickanddeere

12-15-2004 17:26:39




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to old, 12-15-2004 16:53:34  
The foam used in our manlift, boom truck etc vehicle tires at work is a very dense and heavy product. It has to be at least as heavy as filling to 80% with windshield washer fluid. Doesn't ever go flat either.



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Indydirtfarmer

12-16-2004 03:51:59




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to buickanddeere, 12-15-2004 17:26:39  
Also, there are several brands of foam-fill on the market nowdays. Some is more dense than others. Some is heavier/lighter than others. There are a few that advertise a "better ride" than some other choices.

I'm seriously contemplating using foam filled tires on one of my tractor next summer. It spends several hundred hours each year bush hogging commercial (inter-city) property for a real estate broker I do business with. I average around 10 flats a summer with conventional air/fluid filled tires. There's got to be a better way..... John

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txblu...John!!!

12-16-2004 05:35:21




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 12-16-2004 03:51:59  
Put new rubber on this recently purchased tractor. Did it myself. Upon removing the tube, I discovered a liner between the tube and tire. It consisted of a lot (8?)of plies and vulcanized rubber to hold it in place. The edges were tapered to fit against the tire's sidewall.

Never saw them before but assumed they were for the problem you are experiencing with flats.

Maybe a good ag tire store knows of them and could check it out.

Mark

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farmallforever

12-16-2004 08:16:14




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to txblu...John!!!, 12-16-2004 05:35:21  
that is called a reliner they were great and still are if you can find them we had a lot of thornapples in our pasture and that would ruin lots of tires but liquid ruins rims not tires so they wont help for weight.



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txblu

12-16-2004 10:37:45




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to farmallforever, 12-16-2004 08:16:14  
On the liquid. Our local tire guys use antifreeze solution. More expensive I know, but no rust problems.

Mrk



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Indydirtfarmer

12-16-2004 06:17:06




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to txblu...John!!!, 12-16-2004 05:35:21  
I've seen a set of back-hoe rear tires done that way. (Belongs to a building demolition contractor) A couple things come to mind. One, I'm going to continue to use this tractor on the farm also. It will be for hay work mostly. The multi-ply "tread liner" made for an extremely stiff tire. That might not be that much of an issue. The other thing is, most of my flats seem to be from cut sidewalls. Not ALL of them mind you). I'm either going with foam-filled, or "slime filled" and cast weights. (This will be on a new tractor...It will be replacing the 2440 I just painted for bush hogging...GOTTA HAVE A CAB!) John

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txblu

12-16-2004 10:36:02




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 Re: Rear tire ballast in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 12-16-2004 06:17:06  
You'll get clostafobia.....ya ya ye ya ya. LOL

I don't have a cab, if for no other reason, my stuff requires my constant TLC and with a cab, the door would be open all the time with me on and off constantly.



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