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Axle Weights On Tractors

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T_Bone

12-30-2004 12:53:58




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Hi All,

Anyone weighed there tractor front or rear axle?

I'm trying to get a SWAG precentage to work with. 50/50%, 60/40% type of thing of total tractor weight on one of the axles.

T_Bone




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Bill(Wis)

12-30-2004 15:59:35




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 12:53:58  
Why don't you take whatever model of tractor you're interested in and then send for the Nebraska Test data on it? Some manufacturers weight their submissions down to the ridiculous to get good numbers on a paved surface but at least you would be able to see what the manufacturer considered acceptable weight. You'd also have some numbers.



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paul

12-30-2004 15:19:47




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 12:53:58  
It is a very changable thing, depending what you are doing with the tractor. Loader, & put on as much as you can in back. Mounted tillage, and the front will need to be locked down, the rear won't need any at all as the implement pulls it down. Towing grain wagons or other heavy loads & you need a lot on the back again.

The IHC 2+2's were noted for wheel hop, it was hard to dial them into anything stable.

Going to vary a lot with the model & it's use.

--->Paul

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buickanddeere

12-30-2004 14:15:59




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 12:53:58  
Firestone ag tire site has some good info. If memory serves a 2WD bias ply tractor should weight 115 to 145 lbs per pto HP. And have 75% of that weight on the rear tires when at rest. ideal working speed for heavy drawn tools is 3 to 5 mph. I like the idea of weights on the tire if possible. Depends of who ask there is less stress on the axle shaft/bearings?



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Edchainsaw

12-30-2004 17:13:25




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to buickanddeere, 12-30-2004 14:15:59  
JD company letter told us when we got our first MFWD 60 on back 40 on front of it.

reg 2wh 75/25
but if 3pt implemsnts 70/30



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T_Bone

12-30-2004 17:35:07




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to Edchainsaw, 12-30-2004 17:13:25  
Thanks B&D, Ed,

Thats close to what I'm needing. Your numbers works on my IH-340U if using listed shipping weight.

I have a loader/hoe attached or I would just throw it on the trailer and head to the scales.

T_Bone



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G/MAN

12-30-2004 13:41:24




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 Re: Axle Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 12:53:58  
That's going to depend on the specific brand and model, whether it's MFWD or 2wd, how it's ballasted, etc.



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T_Bone

12-30-2004 17:27:41




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 Re: Revision of Weights On Tractors in reply to G/MAN, 12-30-2004 13:41:24  
Hi guys,

I think I didn't make myself clear.

I'm wanting to know how much rear/front axle weight is and what make of tractor it is.

I have a book with tractor weights so if I know the weight on one axle then I can figure a SWAG precentage to use on other tractor weights applied to the rear axle.

My guess is 65% of total weight is on the rear axle. Of course on a stock tractor, no tire weights or counter weights or special equipment. In the ball park???

I'm designing a new trailer that will be used for hauling tractors. Due to the design, I'm wanting to shift load weight around and it would helpful to have a SWAG precentage to work from.

T_Bone

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RickB

12-31-2004 04:12:27




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 Re: Revision of Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 17:27:41  
I think the reasonable approach to that project would be to design enough length into the trailer so you can get the tongue/axle weights right by shifting the load fore and aft and driving/backing the tractor on. Work with overall lengths of whatever you reasonably plan to haul. I recently bought a 'car hauler' to tote my Oliver 660. I was advised to buy an 18' instead of a 16' even though the tractor isn't much over 12' long. I did, and it has proved to be excellent advise.

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paul

12-30-2004 21:14:11




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 Re: Revision of Weights On Tractors in reply to T_Bone, 12-30-2004 17:27:41  
Just seems too variable to me - loader, cast weights, fluid, front rock box..... Each tactor gets set up different, nothing in agriculture remains 'stock'. :) Can & should vary by 20%, which makes the numbers kind of meaningless?

--->Paul



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