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Poor Man's Bull Dozer

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FarmerDave

03-26-2005 13:40:53




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I warned him, but the neighbor has been using the FEL on his new Mahindra 4500 as a bulldozer. Now the cylinders that raise and lower the bucket have bent rods and leak.

I gave them a copy of my Northern Tool catalog opened to the cylinder page. They claim the cylinders in there won't fit. Is this true?

The local Mahindra dealer wants $750 for a new pair. Is this high, about rate, or real reasonable?

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Missouri Boy

03-27-2005 04:24:29




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to FarmerDave, 03-26-2005 13:40:53  
I like the title! A bulldozer has made a lot of men poor! Using a tractor for a bulldozer willmake a man poor and also who does not have his job done.



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720Deere

03-26-2005 17:13:06




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to FarmerDave, 03-26-2005 13:40:53  
You think that price is bad, look at replacement cylinder for a John Deere L&G snowplow. The little guys are about a 1" piston with a 4" stroke and they cost about $235 each. They can't be rebuilt so I either put up with the leaks or break the bank. I've been thinking about buying a complete plow unit off ebay and parting it out.



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george md

03-26-2005 22:40:02




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to 720Deere, 03-26-2005 17:13:06  
720deere,

Go 6 miles past the dealer and it more than

likely can be rebuilt .

george



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720Deere

03-27-2005 08:36:10




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to george md, 03-26-2005 22:40:02  
George,

Are you refering to certain machine shop near the Mason-Dixon line? I really do need to find the time for a visit. Is their anything that can't be done in that shop?



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george md

03-28-2005 20:08:06




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to 720Deere, 03-27-2005 08:36:10  

Stop in , we'll twist your mind all out of

shape. Sleeving the lower bores of a 188 case

block this week along with everything else.

george



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Ryan

03-26-2005 15:53:09




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to FarmerDave, 03-26-2005 13:40:53  
A good machine shop can straighten a bent rod, my dad had it done once on a JD 158 loader.

Ryan



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Stum

03-26-2005 15:44:59




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to FarmerDave, 03-26-2005 13:40:53  
Your neighbor will probably be on this or another board in a couple of months saying what a P-O-S his tractor is,this is bent, the loader is junk,rear is torn out..... .Let him spend the $750. for the correct cylinders,if he puts some aftermarket HD ones on something else will bend/break.I'm sure he thought they should be covered under warranty too.



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kyhayman

03-26-2005 14:29:40




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to FarmerDave, 03-26-2005 13:40:53  
As far as fitting or not, I have no idea. What I would (and have done in similar situations) is to get new rods made for the cylinders. Simply take the cylinders to a fluid power shop and they can make new rods plus repair anything inside that needs fixing. I'd figure the cost at a little more than half for two (I had a pair done, last fall new induction hardened rods, new seals, and some other gut work on one for $415.00).

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Jeff oliver

03-26-2005 15:17:15




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to kyhayman, 03-26-2005 14:29:40  
If just the rods are bent take them to a good machine shop and get new ones. They can oder the rod and weld your ends onto them for alot less than new cylinders. If possible take the cylinder apart before taking it to them because sometimes it costs more in time ot take them apart than to fix the rods. We have done quite a few over the years for people and had good results.



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ol George

03-27-2005 07:08:44




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 Re: Poor Man's Bull Dozer in reply to Jeff oliver, 03-26-2005 15:17:15  
Find a surplus center catalog, take a good measuring tape and pick the cylinders you need. Agco wanted 485 for one on our loader bought it from surplus center for 230 shipped to the front porch. Definitely worth looking into.



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