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TGIN

04-08-2005 11:42:46




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Watching the tractor show last night on RFD-TV and a guy said they had there Farmall M deliverd in the middle of the night and they kept it hidden in the barn for three months during the war. I`ve heard this before but never did understand why , can someone explane this for those of us that was`nt around then .




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Paul in Mich

04-09-2005 19:55:04




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
During the war, tractor production, while not put on hold as was the case with automobiles, were manufactured in much smaller numbers than prewar production numbers. While numbers were down, demand was higher as many tractor manufacturers had just introduced a new, modern, styled tractors in 1939 and 1940. Hydraulics was new, and farmers were comming out of the depression and could better afford a new tractor. The problem was that the demand was greater than the supply. The government, in its infinite wisdom, placed a price cap on new farm equipment which included tractors and combines. Of course, government back then as now did a poor job of closing the loopholes, and the loophole was that the price control applied to only NEW, and not used..... ....Enter Joe Smarter than Government Equipment dealer..... ..Dealers would invoice out a new tractor or combine to a friend or relative who would store it in a barn for a year, or whatever period of time it took to designate the tractor USED, then trade it back to the dealer for another NEW tractor or combine, and the dealer would then have a USED tractor or combine with zero of very little hours which he could then sell at a premium thereby circumventing the price control placed by the government. Call it blackmarketing, but the reality was that the dealer could get market value for the equipment rather than sell a 1944 model at the 1941 price. I don"t know exactly the length of time a NEW tractor or combine had to be invoiced out before it could be considered Used, but whether it was a Year of a day, the process was the same, and the effect was to circumvent the goverment mandate.

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Gerald J.

04-08-2005 19:42:05




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
EVERYTHING was rationed. You had to prove you couldn't support the war effort without the tractor and most tractors had war versions using the minimum of steel and rubber.

There was a lot of local politics in convincing the ration board to allow such a major purchase as a tractor. So getting one might indicate a lot of insider politics or under the table dealings. Those that had been refused probably would have held sore feelings for a long time.

At least that's what I heard later, I was too young to have noticed directly, though I blame those conditions for my propensity to be a packrat. Back then it didn't matter if you had money, you still couldn't get stuff because few consumer products were being made and groceries were rationed too.

Gerald J.

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John M

04-08-2005 16:20:24




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
I think the one Darius had was a black market tractor,seems like I had heard that somewhere.



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Steve(OR)

04-08-2005 14:35:04




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
Buying a new tractor might be looked on by neighbors as unpatriotic - not sacrificing enough for the war effort.



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Coloken

04-08-2005 12:45:49




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
First new tractor after war in my area was sold to a returning marine. (priority) He sold it 2 weeks later.



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IHC Red

04-08-2005 12:27:59




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 Re: War Tractors in reply to TGIN, 04-08-2005 11:42:46  
I didn't see the film, but there was a considerable black market on tractors during and after the War. My dad has a few stories. Dealers would hold on to tractors until they could get a couple hundred $ more. There was a huge demand for new tractors (and cars).

My dad got ripped off when he bought a '47 MM-U. Years later a MM agent came by and he got money back.



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