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Removing heating oil from basement tanks

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MichaelNEIowa

08-26-2005 10:59:57

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This spring I changed out my old oil burning furnace (it died) and put in a new propane unit. This was, of course, after I had the oil tank filled.

Now I'm sitting on around 250 gallons of #2 heating oil that I want out of my house.

Any ideas on how to pump out these tanks without starting a fire/blowing myself and my house up?

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08-29-2005 21:26:32

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

i used a wet dry shop vac to clean and empity mine, 6 gallons of water and 3 gallons of sludge, 40 years of crap.

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Don L C

08-27-2005 18:20:09

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

Forgot to tell you ....if you should happen to spill any oil in on the floor..... sprinkel it with dry "CEMENT" it will soak it up and the smell with it.....

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Don L C

08-27-2005 18:10:17

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

Miche---

I have pumped heating oil for my self,friends and neiobers, using a smalcintrifical electric pump....garden hose connection "IN and OUT"...

Put the pump in the base ment....it can push more than it can pull.

I used empty alchol 55 gal. drums.

Try a tool rental--rember garden hose connections.

Some dealers will buy back the oil and they pump it.

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farmboysteve

08-27-2005 04:29:29

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

use your air compressor to pressure the tank and blow it outside to another tank so you can handle it easier. here in central indiana, bought propane for $1.02. farm #2 is 2.25.

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Don-Wi

08-26-2005 23:47:36

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

Got any deisel tractors? I drained out the tank that was in my grandma's basement, had about 20-40 gallons left in it for about 6-7 years. Snipped the line where it went into the floor, after the filter, and drained it right into 5 gallon cans. I then dumped it in our tractors and ran it through. Didn't give any problems.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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msb

08-26-2005 18:44:23

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

If you still have the old burner then use the pump on it.It is already the same size to hook back up to the fuel line from the tank.Disconnect the line to the burner and adapt a piece of vinyl tubing to it.Be sure to disconnect the transformer and igniter.Try to sell it to a neighbor who still burns fuel oil or find someone who heats with a used oil furnace.They will probably give you at least half price of tank wagon prices.There is a possibility of the fuel being contaminated with fungus so get rid of it if its nasty and black looking.

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kyhayman

08-26-2005 18:40:15

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

If I was close, and you were wanting to sell it, I'd use a 110v or 12v fuel tank pump and a long hose.

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Bus Driver

08-26-2005 15:21:07

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

The real low-bucks solution is to drain it into 5 gallon cans. Set the can in an oil change pan to catch drips. The heating oil will be fine for an off-road Diesel application.

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Ray

08-26-2005 15:19:47

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

You might want to change back after you get a few propane bills,the diesel is cheaper and has more BTU's per gallon.

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MichaelNEIowa

08-26-2005 16:01:03

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to Ray, 08-26-2005 15:19:47

I cannot find anyone around who want to work on an old oil-fired boiler. I switched over to a more efficient propane unit and will probably be pretty happy with it.

The local oil furnace guy made Alf and Ralph Monroe look like rocket scientists.

Now I have an easier to fix, new system under warranty from a large shop. No more dealing with the old furnace guy.

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Bob

08-26-2005 15:24:27

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to Ray, 08-26-2005 15:19:47

Where are you located? Here in northern ND, I just got a quote of $2.29 for heating oil, and propane is still available at summer fill rates of $1.09.

Typically, the heating value of propane is quoted at 80% of #2 fuel, but a super-efficient propane furnace, vs. a typical oil furnace can narrow that gap so it's virtually nil.

So, at least around here, propane is quite a bit of a better deal.

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Ray

08-26-2005 17:35:38

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to Bob, 08-26-2005 15:24:27

I'm in ohio,propane hasn't been $1.09 here for 30
years,last I heard was 2.29 a couple weeks ago.
We considered propane a few years ago,then there was a shortage and you couldn't buy it for any price.Very limited places to buy propane,lots to
buy diesel fuel from,most oil furnaces will take no 2 farm fuel in a pinch.In the last three years all the local propane dealers have been bought out by the large chains,so it's more of a national higher price.

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Jack B. Nimble

08-26-2005 12:44:38

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

I did the same thing a few years ago. I called my fuel supplier and explained why I no longer needed his services and he came out and pumped my tank dry and wrote a refund check for the amount he took, no questions asked. I think any reputable supplier would help you out.

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MichaelNEIowa

08-26-2005 15:00:16

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to Jack B. Nimble, 08-26-2005 12:44:38

Unfortunately, I live in "Hooterville" and my supplier won't do a pump out. I haven't found the right Mr. Haney type to sell my old oil to, but with the way oil prices are going...

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champspa

08-27-2005 03:55:14

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 15:00:16

at 142000 btus per gallon for oil and 910000 btus for propane there is going to be a difference even with a 100% efficient gas compared to a 85% furnace

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SMA in NE

08-27-2005 04:46:31

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to champspa, 08-27-2005 03:55:14

Some of those old oil burners were probably lucky to be 50% efficient. In our area nobody puts in new oil burners any more. It is all propane, natural gas, or electric (heat pumps)

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Mattlt

08-26-2005 11:25:51

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

This was talked about a few months ago. Check out the link below, or do a search on "fuel transfer".

Link

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Jerry/MT

08-26-2005 11:19:51

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

Try the fuel oil dealer. I'm sure they do pump outs. Also you can buy a hand pump and pump it out into 55 gallon drums. If you know someone who has an electric fuel transfer pump you might convince them to help you. By the way, #2 fuel oil is not very flamable so there's little danger in working with it. It has a high flash point temperature so its not very dangerous to handle compared to something like gasoline

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GregCO

08-26-2005 11:13:23

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to MichaelNEIowa, 08-26-2005 10:59:57

You could get an automotive electric fuel pump and a length of hose and pump it out the nearest window into drums.

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JMS/MN

08-26-2005 11:37:22

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Re: Removing heating oil from basement tanks in reply to GregCO, 08-26-2005 11:13:23

There is a danger of buildup of static electricity in some hoses when pumping fuel. Hose designed for diesel tanks and pumps is ok. Plastic hose, plastic pipe, and others are not good. Fuel tank hoses do go bad- mine sparked while filling the combine one night- scary way to find out the previous info.

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