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OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.....

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NC Wayne

09-11-2005 19:40:53




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Sam 35, in answer to your question from the OT post below concerning disability, yes Mom and Dad both smoked. However DON'T BE PRESUMPTIOUS just because someone has a problem with their lungs that it's smoking related. Mom's problem is heriditary and has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with smoking. I had an Uncle die last year with the same condition within three months of being diagnosed. I'm not trying to be a smart a-- here but don't presume to tell me what the problem is... being heriditary it can just as easily hit me and I've never touched a cigarette. It's got a long medical name and I can't remember the initials they use for it, but suffice it to say it's not good. Mom has had ongoing medical problems since being hit by a car years ago. She nearly died then due to a ruptured vessel causing pressure on her brain. This was caused when her head hit the womans windshield. Lingering complicatins from that as well as the other physical trauma left her in pretty bad health in the years since. Still she managed to work and raise me and my two sisters at the same time and then contunue working when we were all gone from home. She wasn't the healthiest person around but she could work and wasn't "disabled". This time if her condition had been caught by one of her other doctors before it got to the stage it's at now it would have been more treatable though still not curable. But the doctors were too concerned with the mighty dollars they were making from the HMO's to do the proper tests when she started having symptoms. One of her long time doctors even told her that 'it was all in her head' and he wasn't gonna do any tests. That's what prompted her to find the guy she sees now. He couldn't believe the way the other doctor had acted considering her symptoms and ran the needed tests. When the results came back he told her that at the stage her condition had reached that all they could do was put her on full time oxygen and take it one day at a time, but that she was living on borrowed time. Now you can assume all you want but don't tell me that someone who has worked as hard as as my Mom has and raised three kids to boot, and worked even when she really didn't have to, doesn't deserve something back when their to the point that their physically not able to work....especially when those other a--holes are out there collecting their disability checks, not because they aren't physically able to work, but because their just mentally too lazy to get off their a-- and work..... Enough said....

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MarkB_MI

09-12-2005 19:48:07




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 Re: OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.... in reply to NC Wayne, 09-11-2005 19:40:53  
Spoken like a true North Carolinian. I lived in your fine state for seven and a half years, and seldom met a native who would actually come out and say that smoking is bad for you.

Your argument is like saying "diabetes in inherited, so if I'm going to get it there's nothing I can do. I might as well stick with my RC Colas and Moon Pies, because it isn't going to make any difference anyway."

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NC Wayne

09-13-2005 19:56:01




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 Re: OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.... in reply to MarkB_MI, 09-12-2005 19:48:07  
Ok, Mark, there you go making an assumption and spoting off at the mouth.....NOWHERE did I say that smoking wasn't bad for you. If you'll get your head out of your a-- you'll see where I plainly stated that Moms problem was heriditary. She doesn't have lung cancer, she doesn't have anything even remotely related to that. What she has is a heriditary disease (like you'd consider Parkinsons, etc)that is passed down in the bodies DNA. It just so happens that this particular disease effects the lungs. Yes her doctor said that her smoking never helped the problem, same as IT DID NOT CAUSE IT.... NOW CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT SINCE I SAID IT IN BIG LETTERS????? ????? Once again enough said.....

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Coldiron

09-12-2005 18:50:15




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 Re: OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.... in reply to NC Wayne, 09-11-2005 19:40:53  
Wayne, Very well said and rest assured there are definitely people that suffer from inherited afflictons and no matter how well they took care of themselves when they were younger they were still hit with the bad news. I hope your mother gets the proper care to make her comfortable and have better health.



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txgrn

09-12-2005 16:15:05




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 Re: OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.... in reply to NC Wayne, 09-11-2005 19:40:53  
I can't read your post. Break it up so we can read it. It is all jammed together and just a bunch of mumbo jumbo.

Mark



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JDknut

09-12-2005 03:53:41




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 Re: OT ---making assumptions, not a good thing.... in reply to NC Wayne, 09-11-2005 19:40:53  
well put!



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