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O/T thinking bout a cow

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wayne2

10-05-2005 05:47:56




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Think I might get a cow, Fresh Milk,cream,butter,cheese. Composting material for garden. Down side locked up twice a day. No weekends. Upside more productive than Horse. caseman. Wayne




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Bret4207

10-07-2005 06:28:35




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
We had Nubian dairy goats for years, nice animals. The milk is like any other whole milk. The secret is using clean utensiles, a clean udder and keeping the fresh milk away from any off odors. It's the same with cows milk. I'll tell you now that handling any goat is much easier than hadling a cow, no matter how gentle. Try the goat before you go to a cow. Lots, lots cheaper with cattle so high now too.

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John (MO)

10-06-2005 11:14:29




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
Boy you got to really love fresh milk to be tied to milking something twice a day! No thank you very much I'll let somebody else have all that fun and I'll get my milk from a plastic jug. Not saying I wouldn't take a milk cow if someone gave me one, but I'd convert her to hamburger before I had to milk her the fourth time.



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Blue guy from a red state

10-05-2005 18:00:32




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
Yeah, and once you get her stump broke she could be a lot of fun.;)



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02

10-05-2005 17:52:07




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
I love Jerseys and Guernseys.I had to sell mine 'cause I got in a band.There is nothing better on a small holding than a milk cow.



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Bob N.Y.

10-05-2005 16:35:28




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
As someone who has been around dairy cows all my life and dairy goats for the last 12 years, I would say forget the cow and get 2 goats. Stagger the breedings so that one is milking while the other is dry. One problem with a cow is that you will have way too much milk when she is fresh and none when she is dry.



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Lincoln

10-05-2005 14:57:16




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
How about a goat instead? Before you start laughing do some more checking into it. You can drink milk straight from the goat. The milk is better for you, it does not have to be seperated and homogenized. You could still make your cheese.(butter I'm not sure) A goat is much cheaper to start with, and cheaper to keep. One dairy goat would give you about a gallon a day. I have been raising goats for meat for about three years now, and have been doing pretty well with it.

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Keith-OR

10-05-2005 17:51:38




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Lincoln, 10-05-2005 14:57:16  
Boy Lincoln, don't know about drinking goat milk. It surely something that one has to acquire a taste for. Remember drinking when i was a kid staying with an Uncle. not sure if I could keep it down today!!! Cousins had to drink it as they were alergic to cows milk. We drank cows milk directly from the cow, even warm. we skimmed the cream off the top and used it for our cereal and home made whipped cream, ice-cream and churned a lot of butter....Keith

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Lincoln

10-05-2005 20:31:22




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Keith-OR, 10-05-2005 17:51:38  
Your right about the fresh cream. There is noting better on a bowl of wheaties. I'd sure hate to see my cholesterol score if I still ate that stuff like I did when we were kids.



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Redmud

10-05-2005 10:48:26




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
I was scared to open this post this morning, Thought maybe you were swearing off wimmins. I reckon fresh milk would be fine if you can drink the stuff, I loved it as a kid when we had milk cows, but when we stopped milking cows, I couldn't drink the store bought stuff. After several years without milk, I found I couldn't drink the fresh milk either.



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RustyFarmall

10-05-2005 10:28:24




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
Why would you buy the cow when the milk is free? OOPs, that's for something else.



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Polish Mike

10-05-2005 08:08:39




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
Where are you located ? ...I have a two year old Scotch Highland heifer you can take cheap. I'm thinning out my herd....

I'm in Roscoe, NY



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Mike (WA)

10-05-2005 08:12:38




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Polish Mike, 10-05-2005 08:08:39  
I'd like to be a fly on the wall when someone tries to milk her for the first time- it might be more excitement than wayne2 bargained for!



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730 virgil

10-05-2005 11:31:32




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Mike (WA), 10-05-2005 08:12:38  
that fly might not be safe on wall more like on ceiling might be better . my old highland cow loosened my teeth and i wasn't trying to milk her . she wacked me up along side of head with her horns . so being good scott german i rocked her head



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Allan in NE

10-05-2005 08:15:12




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Mike (WA), 10-05-2005 08:12:38  
'Spose he'll throw in a set of kickers? That was always the fun part; breakin' in a new heifer. :>)

Allan



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Coloken

10-05-2005 07:48:28




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
Second best day in my life was the first day I did not have to milk a cow. If you are all ways home, morning and evening anyway--go for it. If you have waste ground for pasture, cost will be free. Maybe a handfull of grain now and then. Don't get a high producing milker like holsten, too much milk and need milked regular. A common old cow and you can eat the calf. Cow with calf---you shut the calf up away from cow until you get the milk you want, then turn the calf in.
Kennyp

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Michael In PA

10-05-2005 06:58:54




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
It is OK to milk just once a day, and to even skip an occaisional milking. I do both with our family cow, and she is fine. However, it seems that the colored breeds (Jersey, Ayrshire, etc) do better with once-a-day milking that Holsteins.

With once-a-day milking, you will get about 2/3 of the milk you would get doing it twice-a-day. This may work out to be 3 gallons a day, which is a lot for a family to use. Having a few feeder pigs or calves for the surplus can help.

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mike brown

10-05-2005 10:09:14




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to Michael In PA, 10-05-2005 06:58:54  
A jersey or gurnsey will give you milk that is like dessert compared to the milk you get at the store. I've kown people who milked a herford. Once she learned she wasn't going to be hurt she was OK and eating the offspring was better than a holstien. No need to have a bull if you go A.I.
Then there are the dual purpose breeds .



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RustyFarmall

10-05-2005 06:13:21




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to wayne2, 10-05-2005 05:47:56  
I agree it would be more productive than a horse but it will cost just as much to keep one. You can buy your milk, cheese, butter, etc. at the store for less than it costs to keep a cow.



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dhermesc

10-05-2005 07:39:56




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-05-2005 06:13:21  
If you can get FREE bull service (not that hard with good neighbors or a poor fence) that calf can knock off a lot of the expense of owning a milk cow. I hadn't caught bottle calf prices in a while, but $300+ can defer a lot of the feed bill. Especially if you have some acreage that is getting mowed like a big lawn.



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Stickler

10-05-2005 20:13:15




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 Re: O/T thinking bout a cow in reply to dhermesc, 10-05-2005 07:39:56  
We have 10 cows. They graze on 20 acres all summer, and throw a calf each every year. Even buying hay for 7 months every winter, the calves more than pay for their keep. We sell 8 eight and butcher two, the 8 we sell pay for the hay and the cutting wrapping for the other two. We milk some, but mostly the calves get it.

One cow alone would be dirt cheap to keep.



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