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Opinions about McCormick W's

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Former gopher

11-29-2005 03:29:26




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Here's a chance for you experts to educate a novice. I am fascinated by the "W" line of McCormick tractors (W4, W6, Super W6, WD-9) etc. Whenever I see one of these at a county fair or tractor exhibit I never fail to be impressed by the outward design. Beefy, stout, wide front, sleek fenders. The tractors appear to be "all muscle" to the outside observer. (We had a fantastic, workhorse Farmall "M" on our farm as a kid but I've never dealt with a "W" of any kind.)I had the opportunity to attend the Indiana State Fair last year and saw a couple of "Ws" (can't remember which model precisely) that had been restored to better than "show room" quality and my jaw just about dropped.

I'd be interested in hearing more about them. Are they great tractors? Fun to drive? Capable and reliable? A farm favorite or a pile of junk?

I realize I should probably be posting this on the Farmall board but figured I might get a wider range of opinion here.

Looking forward to your views. I'm just somebody who loves old iron and would be delighted to hear more about this series of tractors from the guys who know what they're talking about.

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Bob/Ont

11-30-2005 11:20:21




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
They where more of a Mid West and Canadian Tractor I think Gopher. We had a W4 and I still have the W6. The finest one I ever saw was the neighbours Super WD6 TA. The last W6 made.
Later Bob



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terryjd

11-29-2005 23:51:15




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
I like the looks of the W series tractors myself. They have a nice looking style. Them W9s have got great pulling power. As for the w6 or w4 I would take the H or M over them anyday. Seem to ride, steer and pull better. My dad always said the W's were built too low and too short to make use of the power. Don't really know myself but the letter series do seem to dig in and got the job done better then the W series IMHO.

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John S-B

11-29-2005 20:18:00




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
The reason the letter series and earlier number series looked so good was that the styling was done by Raymond Loewy. He was an internationally famous industrial designer that designed streamlined boats, locomotives, cream separators, virtually all kinds of machines, appliances etc.



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grub0927

11-29-2005 13:36:02




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
I have owned both a W-6 and an M and loved the m both. Same engine, as I swapped the Firecrater pistons from the W-6 to the M. The "W" is just a Wheatland version of the rowcrop style Farmall's. The W-6 pulled a 3 bottom No. 8 plow with ease and the M pulled a 10'disk. Great sound, easy to work on, great memories.

Grub



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W4

11-29-2005 11:59:50




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
Finally got my {our]W4 and we couldnt be more excited about a design. It looks good setting on carpet in our garage. I find myself stopping to look at it every time I go passed.Like you, I was raised on row crops and had to go almost a thousand miles from home to find this eye catcher.I married a farm girl 48 years ago and I catch her wisking dust off here and there. When we go for a spin together, she usually ends up "in the drivers seat".W4

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Mike (WA)

11-29-2005 08:21:52




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
I had a W-4 for about 10 years- good, dependable and sturdy tractor. I was a little hinky about the PTO being between your legs- since I generally wore baggy-legged overalls, I had visions of getting wrapped up, so usually "rubber-banded" my pantlegs whenever I used it with a PTO implement. As others said, not as nimble as the row crop type. I guess I wasn't thrilled enough with it that I would want another.

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Way Up Here

11-29-2005 06:21:25




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
I'd agree that they are a good looking tractor. I've only driven one of them once and I found the seating/pedal positioning very hard to get used to. I've often wondered if anyone else ever felt the same way about that.



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Bob N.Y.

11-29-2005 15:48:09




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Way Up Here, 11-29-2005 06:21:25  
My father told me, that at one time, he thought he wanted a W-6..... ..until he found out where the clutch pedal was.



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earlschieb

11-29-2005 06:34:27




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Way Up Here, 11-29-2005 06:21:25  
I had a Super W 6, and it seemed like a chore to drive, compared to my H.



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Joe Evans

11-29-2005 06:15:36




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
third party image

Here's a pic of the alpha and omega of the W-9 series.

My W-9 is at ground level; a 650D is up on the trailer. The 650 is the great-grandson of the 9 and the last version of the basic design.

That 650 is a horse at around 65 BHP. With its PS, live hydraulics and shaft, it would be a much more pleasant experience to wonk around on than my W-9. You need a lot of room to move these things around in--at least that's what the 9 needs. But heck, these things weren't built for jockeying hay wagons. They're more at home out in the Plains.

We have guite a few Farmalls. When you spend time around anything, the shape, look and appearance get engrained in your mind. When I adopted the W-9 a couple of years agoan brought it home, its mass overwhelmed anything we owned except for maybe the 400. All our other stuff was narrow front row-crops--the Wheatland style tractor was just so foreign to us. Every once in a while even after two years, I'll catch my brother looking at the W-9 and muttering "...what a beast.."

Despite the massiveness, the W-9 "looks right". It's well-proportioned and sits true and level with 16.9 x 34 rear tires on it. The only thing in my opinion that detracts from its look is the front axle. It appears to be a little undersized when viewed from the front--it doesn't have the overwhelming look of muscle that a JD Standard front axle has. On the other hand, it may have been IH's thinking that a massive front axle would detract from the rear axle weight bias. Don't know.

One other thing that I need to add: I don't know if it was luck or just good design, but the W-9 is very well balanced when pulling a heavy load. There's good weight transfer to the rear axle. Whether it's from the hitch design, front/rear axle weight bias or both, that thing is one pullin' SOB.

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Former gopher

11-29-2005 11:08:53




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Joe Evans, 11-29-2005 06:15:36  
That's what I'm talking about. Awesome photo! Just something about the look of a "W"



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JDB

11-29-2005 10:13:47




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Joe Evans, 11-29-2005 06:15:36  
Nice looking model R bulldog under that drop deck Joe



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Dick2

11-29-2005 03:37:50




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Former gopher, 11-29-2005 03:29:26  
We had a W4 that Dad got about the end of WWII. It was a great tractor, but could beat you up a bit on rough ground until you learned to stand and roll with the motion of the tractor. There were a lot of W6's and W9's sold in North Dakota where I grew up, because there weren't many row crops raised there in those days. They were pretty heavy on gas, but could do a lot of work.



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KRUSS

11-29-2005 07:42:10




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Dick2, 11-29-2005 03:37:50  
I have a W4 and a W6 (still looking for a W9). W6 's were very common in Western Canada, although there was a fair share of H's and M's. A W series is cerainly not as nimble as an H or an M but the driver has a bigger and safer station.



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pgo12

11-29-2005 14:29:20




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to KRUSS, 11-29-2005 07:42:10  
joe, sharp looking tractors there!! pg



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Joe Evans

11-29-2005 19:17:58




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to pgo12, 11-29-2005 14:29:20  
Thanks! Just to clarify things, the 650D is not mine but sure wish it was.

This pic was taken in September at a local Power Show. Some guy comes rolling in with that 650 which sure did catch my eye as it's the first 650 I've seen for real. Thought it would be neat to show the different generations huddled together.

The owner of the 650 has kind of turned it into some kind of Tonka toy looking thing as it has very wide 38" (not 34") rear tires and very balloonish big fronts.

I would really like to have a go at the wheel of the 650.

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Former gopher

11-30-2005 00:50:22




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 Re: Opinions about McCormick W's in reply to Joe Evans, 11-29-2005 19:17:58  
Understood. I was commenting on how great YOUR W9 looks. (The great-grandson looks nice too, but primarily because he comes from such a handsome family!!)

Thanks so much for sharing the photo and the insights on "Ws" with us. Sounds like a lot of us are admirers even with the "warts" associated with some of those older models.



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