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Tim Shultz

06-13-2006 18:42:56




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just got back from baling hay.. 590 bales today, 800 the day before and going to bale about 600 tomorrow. and prolly 1,000 thursday.. boy o' boy, going to flat out DIE this weekend :(
we where using a 190 AC to pull the baler, with a 570 NH baler.. and a kicker.. only way to go.. just wish the other help had show up today :(
but after it's said and done it is a lot of fun, healthy too! how the baling going in your neck of the woods?
Tim Shultz

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730virgil

06-14-2006 21:28:27




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
this year is lot differnt than last cows ate baled hay all summer very little grass . this year grass and red clover growing like gang busters , cows can't keep up with it . i had neighbor mow most of it with idea of making hay now can't get it dry to bale . what is allis square baler and hay rake worth ?



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Joe-Bob/IN

06-14-2006 18:48:16




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Naaa... get a thrower, they work even better. Plus the bales aren't coming from above your head. I assume you are over at Wilbur's again. Only fella around who likes those AC's.



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in-too-deep

06-14-2006 16:04:20




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Darn it you guys talking about not finding any good help makes me upset. I'd be more than happy to lend a hand. Just feed me at the end of the day and give me a water break between loads and we'll call it good. I miss doin' that stuff.



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Jim.UT

06-14-2006 13:22:01




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Like Chuck,WA I"m just a hobby-farmer. I have 1.5 acres of my own and I also cut 4 acres for a neighbor (1 acre at his house and another 3 down the road a piece). I cut my 1.5 and the 3 acre piece last Tuesday, then it rained every day until Sunday. I finally got it baled yesterday (took 1/2 day off work). I only did 84 bales, dropping them on the ground, then picking them up later with the "69 Dodge flatbed and 18" trailer. Loaded almost all of them myself.....one man operation.

I use a Ford 850 tractor and a Ford 542 baler...both ancient.

I still have the 1 acre piece to cut and I also have 5 acres cut at my sister"s house that I"ll have to bale this weekend. Luckily I won"t have to pick that up since it"s her hay. I"ll leave the hard part to her and her hubby.

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Errin OH

06-14-2006 14:53:28




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Jim.UT, 06-14-2006 13:22:01  
Hey Jim, just how may bales fit an 18 inch trailer? (just kid'n)

We x-fer to a 8x20 deck over from a 7x14 wagon. It sure is nice to have a flat deck to work with. 2 of us did 30a in one day with my little red Ford 250 here last week. Only counted over 18 one time in a windrow (plunger strokes). Counted quite a few 14’s, a couple 12's and one at 9 (a little hard on it). Old dog was working that day. So were we. Never pluged or missed a knot. Stacked a bunch of hay that night. Didn't get home till midnight. Bad part was grass was way down and we only got a little over 600 bales. Should have been 900. Good part was only about 25 made it to my barn. $$$$ to pay the help and ME!

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Jim.UT

06-14-2006 15:54:02




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Errin OH, 06-14-2006 14:53:28  
I can put 20 bales per tier on the trailer. I've had it as high as 3 tiers so that would make 60 bales. Last night I put 34 bales on the '69 Dodge flatbed and 50 on the trailer. Heavy load! The Dodge will do it, but not very fast!

I never plug the 542 but I do miss a few ties. If I were doing the amount of acreage you're doing I'd look closer into it and fix the problem. As it is, I just stop and use a pitchfork to move the broken bales over to the nearest unbaled windrow, then keep going. I think my billhooks are about worn out. They have a nice hourglass shape to them.

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Tim...Ok

06-14-2006 08:40:48




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
We're about 2 weeks out from our first cutting..we were real dry early on,sure put it behind..

Tim



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Chuck, WA

06-14-2006 07:59:54




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Just a hobby farmer here in south-central WA state, with a few acres of grass hay, but just to get a little geographical diversity, and a balance to some of the sad accounts from elsewhere...

First cutting was later than I thought I wanted due to business travel during the week I had planned to hay, but turned out to be a blessing. That week had severe wind storms that would have taken downed and drying hay into the next county. As it was, I hayed during the one week of near record high temperatures back in early May, and got my best yield ever. The bad news was that my poor, ancient and ailing equipment didn't care at all for that extra tall, extra thick grass! :)

I finished irrigating this morning, and will mow second cutting starting Friday or Saturday. We've had unseasonably cool, wet weather here, so grass is doing great, but not much weather for drying. Looks like starting Friday will be another run of good weather, and looks like my highest yield second cutting ever.

Folks I sell my hay to tell me it's next to impossible for horse owners to find good horse hay short of buying it at the feed stores at $8-10 per 100 lb. bale. According to them, most of the haying operations around here lost their first cutting due to wet weather, and/or sold it for cattle feed.

My haying schedule is driven by weather, irrigation schedule, and demands of my full-time job, but having only a few acres makes it easier to fit in. However, credit hitting the good drying weather to a lot of prayer!

Chuck, WA

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Leon R

06-14-2006 07:17:59




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Well here in the normally sunny Okanagan I am about two weeks overdue for cutting due to poor wet weather. Several folks cut but it is still on the ground and ruined. Weather looks to be changing so will probably get to it early next week. Going to be tough cutting as a lot of it is laying down.



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Billy NY

06-14-2006 06:09:31




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
I was making my rounds yesterday and along the 30 mile trek to the farm, I saw one field just baled, it had ruts from being so soft from the rains, I see a lot of first cutting still standing, we've had 3 days of dry weather, 2 before that but 48-50 deg F. not good drying weather. Seems like people are wary about cutting still, really need an advantage for drying time here, some real heavy growth out there, and I'm sure it's soaked up a lot of that rain.

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kyhayman

06-14-2006 05:33:18




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
We finally got a break in the weather this week. I cut the last of my first cutting yesterday. So far so good. Got right at 120 acres on the ground, cutting since Sunday. Second cutting from the first fields done is past ready.

Hope to finish round baling at one farm today, switch to squares there. Should finish round baling at the other farm tomorrow.



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RickL

06-14-2006 11:11:34




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to kyhayman, 06-14-2006 05:33:18  
I be mowing second cut next week. all small square from here on out



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bigdiesel

06-14-2006 04:06:30




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
I bale around 300 acres a year. have 2 JD 348 wire balers and a NH super 1049 bale wagon , picks up 160 bales at a time. we can usually do 1500 bales a day.



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06-13-2006 22:54:36




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Haven't started here on Vancouver Island yet,Tim,altho up island is well under way. It's been cloudy and not good drying weather here. Three or four guys cut but lost it to drizzle and a 1.25" downpour.



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Tom in TN

06-13-2006 21:16:11




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-13-2006 18:42:56  
Tim,

Haying is going well in Middle Tennessee. I use a Ford 2000 to pull a NH 273 square baler. I do all of the work by myself, except that usually my wife will drive the tractor to pull the wagon in the field. If I do 200 bales a day, I think I've REALLY accomplished something. I cut about 3 or 4 acres today. I'll tedder it tomorrow and bale it Thursday. I'll pick up most of it Thursday, and what I don't get done, I'll finish on Friday. Some day, before too long, I'm going to have to switch to round bales just because of the labor.

Hope you have great success finishing this cutting.

Tom in TN

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MN Scott

06-14-2006 07:29:54




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tom in TN, 06-13-2006 21:16:11  
From your post you seem to infer that you bale on the ground then pick the bales up? Around here everyone without a kicker just pulls the wagon behind the baler and loads as you bale. Saves alot of lifting if you can get someone to drive the baler tractor. Don't mean to be a SA or anything, just a suggestion to save some labor.



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gary tomaszewski

06-14-2006 08:07:08




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to MN Scott, 06-14-2006 07:29:54  
Scott, That is what we try to do, BUT find help to ride wagon or someone to trust with tractor is a big problem. Sometimes just easier to drop, then have wife drive p/u with wagon while you load.



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Tim Shultz

06-14-2006 08:06:22




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to MN Scott, 06-14-2006 07:29:54  
you are wrong, lol.. we have a kicker, and we stack as we go, none of that picking up stuff for me.. thats my job, stacking on the wagone. some say it's not safe, I say use your head and you will be O.k
Tim Shultz



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ken Macfarlane

06-15-2006 07:10:17




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 Re: baling hay...... in reply to Tim Shultz, 06-14-2006 08:06:22  
Hay is late here, we have had almost 4 times the normal rainfall for the month of June and it is only half over.

Mine is all headed out and it looks like some rain is on the way again.

Been sawing but the sawmill is surrounded by mud just like spring.



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