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O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc?

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old

08-13-2006 12:20:26




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On my place we have 2 small caves and a friend and my wife dig in them all the time and have been finding a good number of arrow heads and also a lot of old bones. Just wonder if any of you guy also look for them.




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old_bc

08-13-2006 21:41:27




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I have found a few arrow heads on sandbars on the river. I have a friend who farms that has an extensive collection.
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ShepFL

08-13-2006 19:10:28




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I don't really find them down here. South of me is a place where they claim to find many. I do some flintknapping of remnants and make my own.

Fella who taught me how claims scientific community cannot distinquish recently created from originals.

I just do as a BSA activity so each new boy gets a neckerchief and arrow head following their first overnight camp out.



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Brian G. NY

08-13-2006 17:37:25




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I don"t collect them but I found a "projectile point" last year when I reset my wife"s tulip bulbs. From what I can gather, true "arrow heads" are relatively "modern"; last 400-500 years or so. The piece I found is probably 4000-5000 years old and not even that rare. Finding it up here in the hills out of the Schoharie valley in New York is unusual. Must have been lost whilst a native was hunting. On the other hand, my wife"s cousin hunts these in the rich Schoharie Valley bottom land every year when the fields are tilled and finds many of them. The Natives have lived in the valley for thousands of years and there are many sites where they had their camps that are rich with these so called arrowheads. He found 11 in one day last spring. Go to Google "Images" and type in "Projectile Point"; Like me, you"ll learn a great deal about the weapons used by the natives. Here in N Y State (as in most places) the projectile points were made of flint but in some of the western states, they were made of much more exotic stone and some are absolutely beautiful works of art.

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workhorse

08-13-2006 16:18:55




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
Watched the local flintnapper makeing 5 or 10 pr hour at the local bar a few years ago. I asked what he did with them and he told me he scatters them around for the tourests to find. Must be lots of counterfits out there



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Don_N1

08-13-2006 15:51:07




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
Here in Wyandot Co. Ohio you can find them by the bucket full after the fields have been worked in the spring. Wyandot and Crawford countys was the home to the Wyandotte Tribe up until 1883. They were then relocated to Oklahoma. My great uncle Colonel Crawford was burnt at the stake in the 1700's by this tribe. There is a mounument to this not far from here. I have no ill wil towards these people as times were differant then.

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IH FAN

08-13-2006 14:50:55




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
50+years tobacco farming. We have shoe boxes full, arrowheads,spearpoints,graniteaxes etc.Kentucky was a hunting ground for many tribes of Indians.



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Rauville

08-13-2006 14:40:14




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I know that nobody would do such a thing. But, my best friend who is a collector had the FBI spend 6 hours at his house with a search warrant, looking for human bone fragments.

And my best friend is a retired federal law officer. Might just be departmental "sour grapes"...but who knows?

It might not hurt to be aware of the "Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act of 1990", before telling a lot of people about your finds.

Take Care

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Richard H.

08-13-2006 16:35:10




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to Rauville, 08-13-2006 14:40:14  
Rauville, you speak truth, last thing one should do is admit they dig in mounds to find sacred artifacts. The sad thing is most post I read here people think they are finding stuff that was in the cowboy and indian movies... A lot of these things are thousands of years old and it really does pizz a lot of people off to find out you are robbing graves to profit!



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John A.

08-14-2006 05:40:05




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to Richard H., 08-13-2006 16:35:10  
Richard, These are good points to make and wholehartedly endorce.
As where we have dug....Not graves but, are camp grounds, where ther Indians lived, cooked, ate, the wemen napped the arrowheads by the fire area/pits that is why they are found in piles thjere.
We have nevere sold any and will not sell.
Yes, these people live Thousands of yrs ago, not 150 yrs as some think.
Nothing stops one from excuvating monuds on your own property, Others property, or public then yes.
Later,
John A.

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old

08-13-2006 15:24:14




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to Rauville, 08-13-2006 14:40:14  
A good number of the bones have been check as to what type they are and most have been bear or wild pig, deer and elk. The one cave is listed as a dig site



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jones in texas

08-13-2006 14:31:07




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
Make that Alibates Flint Quarries National Monument.



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jones in texas

08-13-2006 14:22:08




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
Allways looking , found some through the years on the plains.In the panhandle of Texas is a state park where there are large flint outcropings .A site where indians dug for what they needed, Once found what is called a blank. It was carried with them and pieces broken off when they needed arrowheads.Alibates Flint Quarry State Park.



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John A.

08-13-2006 14:16:50




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
old, my Dad had an extensive collection of arrowheads and the like. A lot my sisters and I help find. We dug in old Indian mounds, or camps as most were. We have regular arrowheads ie "Andice points' bird points, Corner-tang knives, spear points, Breast plates. Dad found a skellten when us kids were little but don't remember what happened to it.
Dad always used a shovel, garden-fork, pick. But in the yrs after I went to the panhandle Dad hooked up with a friend of mine, who uses a Bobcat skidsteer loader and a skreen. To sift everything and not miss the little points and stuff.
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John A.

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slat

08-13-2006 14:11:26




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I don't really collect arrowheads, but my family and I were down at the Mississippi river and my daughter was like 18 mos. and her pants came unsnapped and I put her down to fasten them and in front of her was a complete stone axe head. I couldn't believe it. Still have it today.



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LeJo

08-13-2006 13:38:48




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
I know where there is a dried up lake, and have found a few bird points. Big find was when I was 8 or 9, on an old army road, before roads were layed out, while digging a post hole an old cannon ball about 4" in dia. Istill have it.



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Glen in TX

08-13-2006 13:18:01




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to old, 08-13-2006 12:20:26  
Yeah got a box of them I've found walking turn rows or building fence. Around here you might find more by checking out the NE corner of a old playa lake as they camped on that side with SW wind blowing across water. Right now all the lakes are dry though.



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37 chief

08-13-2006 13:07:40




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I don't collect arrow heads, but in the past I have dug for old bottles. Stan



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rustyj14@yahoo.com

08-13-2006 15:16:35




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to 37 chief, 08-13-2006 13:07:40  
When i was a mere tot, my Grand-father had an immense collection of arrow heads. kept them on display, in glass cases, in his sitting room. The local Pittsburgh, Pa. paper got wind of it, so they came out and took pictures of the collection, and had a fine write-up about it. They even had me in one picture! but, the depression came, things got tough, Grand-dad, my father and an uncle lost everything on the stock market, so Grandfather sold everything to a friend! The only thing i got out of the collection was a trade axe, which i still have! Grandfather was a river man, steamboat builder, and Captain of one boat, near Marietta, Ohio. I suppose he found most of his stuff in the river, or on the banks, or wharves. Rustyj

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2x4

08-13-2006 22:14:20




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to rustyj14@yahoo.com, 08-13-2006 15:16:35  
I'm from Parkersburg WV 10 miles downstream from Marietta. My great-uncle had a riverbottom farm upstream from Marietta on the Muskingdom River. After floods he would check the gravel bars & had 2 bushel baskets of arrowheads, ax heads, etc.



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Rustyj14

08-14-2006 10:59:41




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 Re: O/T Do any of you guys collect arrow heads etc in reply to 2x4, 08-13-2006 22:14:20  
I suppose my Grand-fathers got their collections the same way. They both had or worked a boat building business, in Marietta, at the foot of Appian Way. (I think thats the name, ain't been there in 25 years.) It is located where the restored steam-boat is anchored, near the library. It was one of the big floods that forced them out of business! they had all of the materials on hand, stacked up, and a hull on the ways, when the big flood came and took it all away! That bankrupted them and they moved to Pittsburgh. My Grandfather built some kind of river steamers for Brazil. And one of my further back ancestors worked on Admiral Perry's fleet, and others worked in Philadelphia, on other boats. My Grandfather was Captain J.M. Hammitt. He built a lot of steamboats, and used a lot of products made in Pittsburgh! Around the age of 70, he became a broker for the local barge companies, buying and selling barges! BY: James M. Hammitt

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