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OT: Lost my first deer today

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Joe in IN

10-14-2006 13:28:44




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Figured I would take up Bow hunting to extend the season a little. Get me a doe(at the minimum) that way shotgun and muzzleloader would be for the BIG boy....

Saw several today, missed the first(140 grain head, sighted in with 100 grain head...not smart)...10 minutes later(w/ 100 grain head same as practice) I shot at a doe.

Shot hit and stuck(though not through)about 8 inches further back onthe deer than I wanted(in the belly). Tracked for 2 1/2 hours and couldn't find her. Went back out this afternoon on a neighbors 4 wheeler, no luck....

16 years 25 deer(all shotgun or rifle) and never lost a deer and only missed once.

Not sure if I don't know enough, or if Bow hunting is not for me(due to higher wound potential)...

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jlmtractor

10-15-2006 18:37:24




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
man i missed a big bodied deer with a small rack with my 30-06 just saturday and i killed a 110 pound doe which is a monster doe in south carolina. i also shoot a compound bow and ive killed some doe but no bucks yet. if you want to see the world record nontypical and typical bucks go to google and click images and type in whitetail deer. man are those deer huge.



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Blackhole49

10-15-2006 07:59:48




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
I hunt in MI. Since I started using a string tracker, I have only lost one deere in the last 10 I shot. That was because another hunter though he would help me and did not wait 15 minutes before tracking. Usually the string will lead me straight to the deere. If not, I always find a blood trail. String does not effect the flight of the arrow at 15-20 yds. Do Not practice with the tracker on the bow! The spool slapping around inside the container will loosen and tangle the string and it will stop an arrow cold. Don't ask me how I know.

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Leland

10-15-2006 06:01:27




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
Thats the problem with rookie bow hunters they take shots that are to far out ,I have put down many a deer around here that had been gut shot .



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mjbrown

10-14-2006 16:21:59




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
I let a few bowhunters hunt my place. No noise, No stray shots carrying across the countryside. I encourage them to stick as many does as possible after seeing how they mow off the beans when they are a couple inches high. The deer are eating beans morning noon and night.



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Joe in IN

10-14-2006 16:35:25




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to mjbrown, 10-14-2006 16:21:59  
Neighbors corn field the outside 4 rows are toast. If the stalk is still standing, it doesn't have an ear....



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Billy NY

10-14-2006 21:25:39




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 16:35:25  
Our one field is I guess bottom land, seeing its a valley, woods and brush all around, red and gray squirrels, chipmunks, deer and the grackles, decimate the corn, last year it was really dry in september, moisture was ok to pick, he let it go, the grackles would all land in the corn and pack up, then roost in the tree my stand is built around, pipe scaffold in the middle of a double tree, and drop it on the roof, while I sat and listened. They dramatically lower the yield, had he picked it in sept, would have been an excellent yield, but the local critters do take their cut if you wait too long in this one field.

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Billy NY

10-14-2006 14:10:15




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
It's bound to happen, archery takes some practice as I've come to learn and a steady hold to place the arrow on the bulls eye. I'm no archery expert by any means, I use an older compound, that was top of the line in it's day, got it second hand, the late models today, have more relief on the pull after you snap over, makes it so much easier to hold. Mine has good velocity and I'd not want to be on the recieving end of it !

I have correctly measured arrrows, tips for my set up, archery shop helped me get set up, and use only my 20 yd pin, as I have not mastered 30 yds yet. I can hit a bulls eye at 20, repeatedly. Then I took a deer replica target, got set up in my stand, used a range finder to locate a pin for 20 yds, practiced heart shots directly from my stand, to the 20 yd mark in the clover patch. I think practicing out of your stand with a life size target, will help you get as comfortable taking a shot as you are with a rifle, muzzle loader, shotgun etc. It worked for me.

Last year, I had a small buck walk into my killing zone, I have passed on many, but held my pull on a few, just to practice sighting in. I hit that buck directly in the heart area. He went 100 yds to the north and I waited so as not to push him any further. Tracked him and found him in the dark, the coyotes had already tore into him, I was now thinking what a waste, as everytime you nail one with an arrow, he's gonna run a small distance, even a perfect shot. May have to start after them right after the shot, lot of competition out there with mr. coyote on the scene.

I think the best one can do when hunting is be confident in the shot they will place, or pass, some people don't respect that ethic, don't practice off season, keep their weapons in order etc. and of course that leads to poorly placed shots and wounded animals, have seen plenty of them horribly wounded, I'd rather pass then take a bad shot, although even the best of us will end up with a misplaced shot on a rare occasion.

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old

10-14-2006 13:50:46




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
Bow hunting is a lot harder to do. BTDT and the fisrt deer I ever shot with a bow got away from me also. It was a nice 10 or 12 point buck and He stepped froward just as I lit the arrow fly. I did see him the next day which was the begining of gun season but he was to far away to shot. Reason I'm sure it was the same deer was he walked with a limp in the same hind leg as I hit him in. Few years back I thought I had missed one and when I looked at the arrow real close I found blood so I started looking real hard. Found him about 100 yards away and I had made a bad shot but a good shot. I had cut his wind pipe and throat. Hasn't been cold enough in my area for me to bow hunt yet but maybe soon it will be

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Steve Crum

10-14-2006 13:46:58




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Joe in IN, 10-14-2006 13:28:44  
Gave up deer hunting 10 years ago when Dad stopped. Got tired of the Pa game commission coddling the bow hunters and constantly harrassing the rifle hunters. Then on the first days of rifle season walking through the woods and counting half a dozen or more deer carcasses that had been wounded and left to suffer an extended and painful death. Most if you wanted to take the time and poke in the stinking mess, had a broadhead imbedded in them. Pa game commission goal acomplished, herd reduction and high fines.

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TomH in PA

10-14-2006 15:00:46




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to Steve Crum, 10-14-2006 13:46:58  
Yup. I don't know what the ratio is, but every bow hunter I've talked to admits they shoot several for every one they find.



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Doug in IL

10-14-2006 20:33:51




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 Re: OT: Lost my first deer today in reply to TomH in PA, 10-14-2006 15:00:46  
In my area, you can figure at least 2, maybe 3, deer lost for every one brought to bag with a bow. The way to eliminate much of the waste would be to limit shooting time for bowhunters to 3 hours before sunset. They arrow a deer right at sunset and can't find it before dark. So they look for a little while with flashlights, and then give it up. By morning, the coyotes have finished the deer off. In this state, bow season is way too long and gun season way too short. Deer do a lot of crop damage and are involved in a lot of car accidents. They do need to their numbers controlled. But just wasting them is wrong too. The Native Americans threw their bows away the minute they could get a firearm! They knew the bow had a lot of shortcomings.

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