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Snowballs

10-23-2006 10:47:03




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I have done some researh and I have found out that the fisrt true replacement for the horse was the international farmall. Is this True or was John Deere the fist to produce the first true replacement for the horse.




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Bob seND

10-23-2006 18:45:18




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
My grandfather had a Rumley Oil pull, then a D JD that he used along with his horses. The D and finally a new H Farmall finally replaced the horses.
Bob seND



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MIMark

10-23-2006 18:24:39




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
don't forget the old holt and best and that they merged to form the caterpillar tractor company. they were back as far as most before the merge and saw a lot of use in california as holt and best also ONE ofthe first to use tracks. my gandfather bought a d-4 diesel back in 36or37 new and a 4bottom oliver plow for it.used to do some custom plowing and after they paved the cty road in the forties pulled it on a home made trailer with the dudlebug with the plow behind wish I had pictures to post. If you go to the antique caterpillarmachinery enthusiasts site the picture on the home page looks just like his tractor.

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tractorsam

10-23-2006 14:27:41




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
I'm going to stick my oar in here because I didn't see it mentioned. I can see it's not a clear cut thing but my vote would have to go to the Fordson F. So far as a I know it was the first tractor produced in anything like truly large numbers (say over 20,000 or something like that). The Farmall was IH's answer to the Fordson so the Fordson came first. I think it probably started the true trend for tractor power, up until then no one really had the answer to the horse. It did for tractors what the Model T did for cars. Just my 2 cents, tractorsam

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jhill52

10-23-2006 19:28:57




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to tractorsam, 10-23-2006 14:27:41  
I have to agree with the Fordson. It was dependable and had a low price. Ford sold them by the thousands thru a large dealer network so they were widely available. My grandfathers first tractor was a Fordson. My grandmother said it was a miserable thing to drive but it sure beat walking behind horses.

Jerry



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Glen in TX

10-23-2006 13:58:52




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
That question and answer can vary a lot with every area and farm. You got some people out there that haven't ever replaced the horse or oxen yet either. The steam traction engines replaced horses first for breaking out new lands and vast prairies and the small gas engine powered traction cultivators came along long before true row crop Farmalls or others of any type or brand. I thought they called them Farmalls because they were so small you'd spend all your time all year long on them trying to get the farming done lol.

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chiefrunamuk

10-23-2006 13:05:45




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  

Snowballs; Don't know what was first of all,ours was a team of #2200 lb horses and dad"s going courtin' tractor, i think about a 1936 co-op there-abouts, had a road gear of 40 mph, real work horse Ken



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Allan In NE

10-23-2006 11:59:15




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
John Deere perfected the art of stealing someone else's ideas. Haven't had an original thought or patent yet. :>)

Allan



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4010guy

10-23-2006 12:40:29




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 10-23-2006 11:59:15  
As you can tell you know witch tractor is my fav. :o) but i couldent agree with you more---your right on.Back in 79 i sold two saddel ponies to make a down payment on my first one and just havent been able to part with it since..Anybody out there remember them 22% prime interst rates? they were somedays to barrow money to buy cows and 3rd and forth hand junk.but its been fun..I THINK?? -)



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SMA in NE

10-23-2006 12:37:24




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Allan In NE, 10-23-2006 11:59:15  
My grandpa bought his first tractor in the fall of 1947, a '48 model 8n Ford. He farmed with horses until then. I agree with Allen, John Deere perfected ideas or did a better job of marketing than other companies. Ford had a powershift tranny in the late fifties (1959? selectospeed). By 1964 Deere had perfected the powershift and put it in the 4020's. Pretty soon they were the dominant tractor manufacturer.

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Rick Kr

10-23-2006 11:37:33




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
Well since it is open to debate...

The first tractor to replace my great-grandfathers horses was a 1946 Allis WC. Luckily I have now inherited it along with most of the equipment. Some that he had converted over from horse drawn.

So at our place the vote would be AC replaced the horses.

Rick



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Red Dave

10-23-2006 11:12:59




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
There were a lot of old names in the traction engine business in the late 1800's & early 1900's, both steam powered and internal combustion engine powered. Names like Rumely, Frick, Case, Garr-Scott, Schaedler, and dozens more of them. All trying to be a replacement for horses, mules & oxen.

John Deere was one of the later companies to get into the tractor business.
The IH "Farmall" was not the first tractor, by far, it was not even the first IH tractor. It was however, one of the first of what later came to be known as "row crop" tractors.

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kyhayman

10-23-2006 11:01:34




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
I think that subject is very much open to debate. It wasnt a case of there being any one tractor that came along and everyone said, ok, this is it, we dont need the horses any more. The Rumley's, Titans, Waterloo's, and a host of other mobile and stationary engines each began to replace certain things that the horse could do. The 9n and 2n Fords had a lot going for them and there could be a strong argument made that they were the tractor along with the later 8n that really put the horse 'out to pasture'. Even as late as the 40's lots of horses used for lots of jobs. My great uncles were good farmers, and affluent for the times. They didnt buy a tractor until the late 40's though they used stationary engines, trucks, and even had gasoline clothes irons, and a kerosene refridgerator.

It was timing and price that replaced the horse, not any one machine. Factories and tooling built during WWII for military production enabled lots of cheap tractors JD, Ford, Case all of them to be built. People had money, and there was a large demand for food all over the world.

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Janicholson

10-23-2006 10:55:56




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 Re: Fisrt Tractor in reply to Snowballs , 10-23-2006 10:47:03  
Steam traction engines were first. There were many brands including Case, and Rumley. JimN



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