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n8terry

10-27-2006 08:53:08

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I am sure that some of you folks have seen the guy with a car he is proud of take up two parking spaces by placing the car diagonally.
Whenever I see this, it upsets me. Especially if it is not at the back of the parking lot.

Having said all this, I wish you folks would give me some ideas on how to keep people from messing with my tractor. At the last show someone left my switch on. I don't want to put a rope barrier around the tractor, but perhaps this is my only option. Some of you know what some of the other things that happen, like talking to someone while they have placed their foot on some part of the tractor where it doesn't belong.

I have a tractor that I don't care that much about cause it isn't a show tractor. It also gets used as a tractor. I still don't want someone leaving the switch on.

Here is the question, what kind of sign do some of you guys use other than "DON'T TOUCH". I am going to take the best choice and have the sign made up.

I'll bet there are some of you that can't wait to beat me up on this one, with that in mind, I am hoping for some good suggestions and positive feed back.

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ErnieDD

10-27-2006 18:21:21

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

How about a tractor just for letting kid climb on? Take the key out (it does have a keyed Ignition, right?). Post a sign that it is ok with parental supervision. Remember 20 years from now these kids will be buying your old iron and telling stories to their kids.

My kids were interested in going with me 5-10 years ago, they refuse now, there is nothing for them to "do". I go by myself.

40 years ago when I was a kid, the craze was collecting brass fords, model "T" etc. Now no one does, or not to the extent that I remember. When our generation is gone who will want to collect old hit and misses, 8n's, know how to make a JD pony sit and bark or trouble shoot a magneto?

I can still identify a MH44, MM, Ford 8xx blind folded because I was around then a good many hours or helped someone who did. I get to stoke the memory fire once or twice a year at a show.

It was not enough exposure for my kids, and perhaps it is too lacking in sizzle and pop compared to TV, internet, Disney etc.

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Steven@AZ

10-27-2006 17:07:16

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

How about this:

"How would you like it if I had my hands all over YOUR private collection?"

I usually go with a "Please do not touch" if I'm not going to be around the tractor. I'm really picky about my restored stuff and 95% of the time I sit with it to supervise and be sure no kids get hurt.

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John S-B

10-27-2006 16:36:08

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

If I take up two spaces it's either at the back of the lot because of the lenth of my truck or at the lumber yard when I'm going to load something so some yahoo flying up the aisles does'nt run me over. If you have your handicap sticker or placard I can't see why anyone would be mad.
As far as the tractors, if you're there and you don't mind parents letting their kids sit in the seat with supervision, that's fine. But if no one's there they deserve what ever happens to them or their kids, they should know better.

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Justin S, in

10-27-2006 16:13:11

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I Have a john deere a late style that i have a battery disconnect under the seat i also usually put a sign on tat says i bite or i got one that says dont touch cause there still looking for the last guy

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Don LC

10-27-2006 16:00:51

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

The next time you see a big white van taking up two spaces,cross-ways it could be mine..... I am disabled and must ride a electric wheelchair..and use a lift that takes up an additional 7'...

Van accessible spots arnt usually wide enough for me to get off my lift.....or they are parked full of handicapped cars.....

The result is you do what you have to do.....I get my share of parking tickets.....

From what I see , parents let the smaller kids run wild and play on the tractors..... I know its not handy but they make battery cut-off switches.....

Best sign" PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH".....

Don L C south west Ohio

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HENRY E NC

10-27-2006 14:46:14

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I have installed a battery cutoff that I bought at Walmart for less than 5 dollars. It has a green knob you take off and put in you pocket until you are ready to startup. About kids----I am into old tractors for the fun of bringinmg back memories of my youth and love to tow a wagon full of kids in parades. Also, any young man or girl that shows an interest in my tractors gets to get up on it and play with the controls, while I stand bby with the parent and keep close eye on them. Why else would you be there?

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STRAHL

10-27-2006 14:08:13

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I TOOK MY 300 UTILITY TO A LOCAL SHOW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. WENT TO START IT UP FOR THE PARADE ON SUNDAY AND SOMEONES KID HAD PULLED THE THROTTLE ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE LIMIT, AND LATCHED THE LIFT HANDLE IN THE DOWN POSITION. BEFORE I COULD REACT THE CARRYALL ON BACK HAD CAME DOWN ON WY WIFES LEG, SHE'S STILL LIMPING.BACK IN THE DAY MY OLD MAN WOULD HAVE WARMED THE SEAT OF MY PANTS FOR TOUCHING SOMEONE ELSES STUFF.

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doogdoog

10-27-2006 13:52:47

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

Aloha, One thing for sure is to have another disconnect switch or remove the batt cable. One time at an auction, I saw this one guy turn the ignition key while standing on the side, and the forklift lurched forward. It was a good thing nobody was in the front of the lift. Looks like someone left it in gear so be carefull about that.

Mahalo,
doogdoog

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Janicholson

10-27-2006 10:34:34

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

My first reaction was to buy an old suitcase. place a wire comming out of it to a short (6" chunk of 1/4" rod stuck in the ground, and another wire with alligator clip attached to the draw bar. Paint a sign that says 20,000 volts on the case and place it where one steps up to get on. (a blinking red light might be good special effects)

Then I thought NAH, disconnect the battery and put some protective Tyvek paper on the points that would be scratched and let them ride. Inspiration is better than envy. JimN

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lee thomas

10-27-2006 10:09:32

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

My wife and i show some tractors if a kid comes up and ask to sit on it I think it is worth the effort to redo it if it gets skinned to see the smile on their face when you say ok they will remember it for many years and most of the kids nowdays have never bin around a tractor like we were growing up

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Oldmax

10-27-2006 09:53:48

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I don't show anything but I have a friend that does. He will tell you Look all you want to but don't touch . It isn't their money that paid $200 for paint plus the 40 hours time repainting where someone scratched your tractor " looking at it" Draging some kid "Def,Kid an unwanted child" off the seat . This happend to another one of my friends that shows his 1948 8-N Had to repaint entire tractor to get a match & dissamemble tractor to paint , took better part of week . Mark off your area with a nice rope and put up signs you are just portecting your investment .

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Mike M

10-27-2006 09:42:48

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

Alot of times you will catch me taking up two parking spots. This is because when I drive my full sized extended cab pick-up in town it's the only way you can park so you can get back out. Very few parking lots are designed for full sized trucks in my town everything is designed for a model T I guess ?

And I also figured out early on that the only simple way to keep "most" people off my tractors was to string yellow caution tape around them. Generally then they don't get monkeyed with. And I have had more trouble with adults fiddling with stuff than the kids.

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Cue P.

10-27-2006 09:25:58

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

Never mind shows, they climb all over the equipment right at the farm...sign clearly signs "Danger Keep Out" of the tractor and equipment storage area. I walk by and parents have their kids climbing all over the stuff - even standing on the hood of my restored W4! AAGGH!! I even saw a father holding their kid over a live electric fence to pet a horse - and theres a sign right there that says...yep..."Live Electric Fence" Signs dont seem to do much - but they sure notice when your missing one - then they'll sue.

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Dick L

10-27-2006 13:33:56

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Makes Ya Wonder in reply to Cue P., 10-27-2006 09:25:58

Makes you wonder how some can walk with their feet togather, People drive in at my place as well and start climbing all over tractors. I have had dirt dunped in gas tanks, gas tanks pee"d in, and switches left on and batterys run down. On my one Oliver 77 someone had pulled the clutch lever past the stop so the push rod was out of the clutch. Not a big job but I can never figure out what makes people do such things.
I walked in the barn one evening after work and the stall door was open and Kricket(horses name) was standing at the opening but didnt come out. When I open the stall door he is ready and can hardly wait to get out.

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Sloroll

10-27-2006 09:21:21

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I agree with the secondary switch or just disconnect the battery. I am a little strange in the respect of showing what I have. I don't necessarily encourage kids climbing all over my machinery although I certainly won't discourage it. I think of the times my brother and I raced each other on my Dad's and Grandpas unrunning tractors. I think of the fine neighbor I had that let me touch, play and eventually operate solo his 50hp Case Steamer. I can only hope I can give some child those types of memories. Humans by nature, and even more so children learn and experience by touching. Let em touch. Let them enjoy your enjoyment. I enjoy working on em and if they get a love blemish... I get to work on them some more. That doesn't mean the kids have full range to beat the thing with a hammer of course. Switches being switched is part of the game though. Common sense is something to be practiced (and taught ) too.

I have a theory that Lawyers took over and common sense went out the window when electric fans became impossible to put a finger into. Mom would say "don't put your finger in there" over and over then one day WHACK! and your finger knew from then on don't be stuck into something moving. Once the fan was shrouded it became the manufactures fault a finger got hurt and thus another life-long lesson is learned that is a far cry from "your actions have cinsiquences". Heck I'm ready to sue the ZERO fan co. now!

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RustyFarmall

10-27-2006 09:01:34

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

I've seen a few of those "do not touch" signs, and I always respect them, but then I do not touch anyones tractor unless invited by the owner to do so. I would like to think that those signs are not necessary, but in the real world, they are. One thing you might do is to install a hidden battery disconnect switch, or just plain remove one of the battery cables. Won't stop the curious fingers, but at least the points won't be burned or the battery dead.

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Farmall_Ryan

10-27-2006 08:58:30

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to n8terry, 10-27-2006 08:53:08

For the switch issue, you could mount a second switch up under the tin somewhere and wire it in series with the normal switch. Have the battery feed go to the hidden switch under the hood then to the normal switch before finally making its way to the coil. This way you could flip the hidden switch off an know that power isn't gonna get beyond that point even if the regualr switch does get flipped on...

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MSM

10-27-2006 09:09:10

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to Farmall_Ryan, 10-27-2006 08:58:30

I have quit taking my tractors to shows. At least in the area I live in there is no concern for anyone elses property. People seem to think they are trash receptacals,a place to spill drinks or dispose of dip and chewing gum,or a source for needed parts.

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buickanddeere

10-27-2006 18:24:16

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Re: displaying tractors at shows in reply to MSM, 10-27-2006 09:09:10

We have had three tractors vandalized and a truck tire deflated at the same show. Glad I didn't catch the fool(s) in the act.

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