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Moving snow with a blade

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sodly

12-21-2006 10:08:22




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I posted this in an earlier thread but didn't get much response so I thought I'd make a new topic.

I've been curious about moving snow with a 3 point blade. In the past I've used 2WD utility tractors and a 6' or 8' boxed scraper (boxed blade) without chains to move snow, but the box quickly fills up and starts piling under the wheels of the tractor, so it's not ideal for large areas or long runs. On the plus side, it's easy to push AND pull snow with a boxed scraper without adjusting anything (since they're designed to push and pull dirt). A lot of the problem is you can't angle a boxed scraper.

How well does it work to turn a 3 pt. blade around backwards and push snow with the blade angled? Seems like this would work well but having never tried it, I'm not sure. Can anyone tell me if there's much difference between pushing and pulling snow with a 3 pt. blade? Seems like your driving wheels would more likely be on cleared pavement if you pushed. Also, do they make hydraulic angling blades that will turn 180 degrees under hydraulic power? I don't imagine they do.

Finally, how do you size a blade to a tractor? I presume you ideally want one that, when angled, is still as wide as your wheel tracks. Or are they simply sized by the HP rating of the tractor? For instance, how big/small a blade would be ideally suited to a 3020? 6 foot? 7 foot? 8 foot?

Sorry for all the novice questions.

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Tim in New York

12-22-2006 09:26:31




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
And you can really mess up a blade quick when pushing backwards if your tractor has any size and you hit something immovable - rock, corner of a concrete pad, etc.

Tim



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Nolan

12-22-2006 04:39:32




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
It works, you just spend a good bit of time looking over your shoulder. Some folks find that more uncomfortable than others. Similar the driving in reverse. Some are much better at it than others.

Biggest advantage to going backwards is you don't build up a ball of snow in front of the blade that also happens to be under your tractor. You're also not driving over the snow first before trying to shove it with the blade. It really works a lot better going backwards.

Since a little 5' blade is turned about 45 degrees, that's a narrow path of snow you're shoving, so a bigger blade tends to work better for this job. Keeps your tires out of the snow. But then it does an even better job of shoving the tractor sideways, so you're limited this way as well. My old 8N could handle the 5' blade well, and the old Jub could handle the 7' blade.

And if there was much snow at all, the blade was lousy no matter what tractor was pushing it. As soon as you've piled up a few feet of wet snow nothing is going to shove it around worth a darn. Then you need to either use a true snow blade and roll it over, or use a blower and throw it over.

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Ultradog MN

12-21-2006 19:56:09




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
Well,
3 point lift linkages are really meant to do only 2 things.

Lift and pull.

Sure we've all seen or done a little pushing with them.

But we've seen lift arms that are all bent and masticated from pushing too.

For a little bit of snow I would use a back blade to pull the snow off a driveway.
For a lot of snow I would look for a front mounted plow.



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Hugh MacKay

12-21-2006 17:22:35




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
sodly: Why not make a doctors appointment, get him to put your head on backwards. For less than $300. you can put a 3 point on front and push snow where your looking. When your grading next summer you can put it behind.



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RAW inIA

12-21-2006 15:03:38




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
Dad used to use an IH fast hitch blade (7' I think) on a 350, turned around to push snow. would end up with a pile 6-8' high. Just kept pushing it up the slope. Worke good.



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John17

12-21-2006 10:28:43




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to sodly, 12-21-2006 10:08:22  
Pushing snow backwards with a blade works well. You will find that if you angle the blade in heavy snow, the tail will start to wag the dog. As far as sizing your equipment, an 8 foot blade for a 3020, would work great. The nice thing about a regular blade is you can angle it and push snow off to the side,going forward, just like the big boys do. Hope this helps. JohnG



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mjbrown

12-21-2006 12:57:42




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 Re: Moving snow with a blade in reply to John17, 12-21-2006 10:28:43  
I use a regular scraper blade and I shorten the top link so the blade is fairly vertical , that way it pushes about as well as pulls. The longer the top link the more it digs in going forward and backing it goes up over the snow. It also works good angled in forward not so good in reverse. Three point hitches are designed to pull.



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