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Milky Diesel Fuel

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Dale B

12-28-2006 19:31:19




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A tractor was returned from rental with a pink , milky looking fuel in the tank , it even felt watery. We called the customer and he said he had used the tractor in a refinery , and they required him to use that fuel while on the refinery grounds. The tank on the tractor had a sticker indicating Proformix 301 fuel . Can anyone tell me more about this stuff ??




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Dale B

12-29-2006 06:10:29




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 Re: Milky Diesel Fuel in reply to Dale B, 12-28-2006 19:31:19  
So was there a safety issue with the water emulsion , or were they just using our tractor as a testing engine ?? I was thinking it might be less flammable in the event there was an engine fire etc .....



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Greg_Ky

12-29-2006 13:50:50




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 Re: Milky Diesel Fuel in reply to Dale B, 12-29-2006 06:10:29  
What they do not tell you is 15% power loss and 20% increase in fuel consumption and it turns to sludge after + or - sixteen months. Also the storage tanks must be agitated to keep the water in suspension. Nasty Stuff. My $.02



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GG Missmolly

12-28-2006 20:48:31




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 I found this on a Google search in reply to Dale B, 12-28-2006 19:31:19  
Tapping Lubrizol's "PuriNOx" emulsion technology, Chevron last week formally unveiled its "Proformix" diesel-water emulsion for commercial customers in southern California.

Click the link for the webpage with the story



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paul

12-28-2006 22:56:03




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 Re: I found this on a Google search in reply to GG Missmolly, 12-28-2006 20:48:31  
Ah - a California thing. The water is _supposed_ to be in the fuel. Ok. Wonder how they make the water go through the pump without bits of pump all over. Doesn't sound like something we could use in Minnesota. :)

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T_Bone

12-29-2006 00:53:07




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 Re: I found this on a Google search in reply to paul, 12-28-2006 22:56:03  
Chevron is usually pretty loose on giving out info on there technology but after reading several articles that didn't say too much, what? they don't want us to add our own 20% water to our fuel and cut out there "water" profits? LOL

This doesn't sound so off the wall tho. Seams like all the newer fuel treatments encapsulate the water to be burnt with the diesel with out any harm to the engines. So now all we have to do is add a paint stir to our cordless drill and whip up some more "super fuel" with adding a little diesel treatment.

I've also read where at the race tracks there using water & methnol injection to achieve another 15% HP gain on diesels but more importantly cooling off the cylinder temps so they can burn more fuel per cubic inch. And who said a diesel couldn't win a race :)

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C

12-29-2006 13:34:39




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 Re: I found this on a Google search in reply to T_Bone, 12-29-2006 00:53:07  
still the water will be a problem in the northern states,ice does not flow and water is heavier than fuel so it plugs the fuel filter.



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paul

12-28-2006 19:54:25




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 Re: Milky Diesel Fuel in reply to Dale B, 12-28-2006 19:31:19  
I agree with Old. Milky part is bad.

Red part is the dye for no road tax paid. Will apply to any diesel fuel, it's only dye - does not indicate any other thing. If red shows up in a pickup or other on-road vehicle, big fines.

--->Paul



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old

12-28-2006 19:49:36




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 Re: Milky Diesel Fuel in reply to Dale B, 12-28-2006 19:31:19  
Well the red/pink would be the dye they put into diesel for off road use, the milky part is probably water in it. The red/pink will not hurt any thing but water will. The red stuff is just cheap diesle and has no road tax on it and if uesd on the road can/will cost big fines if caught running it on a road truck etc.

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