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LP tractors......Pro's and Con's

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Rich-WI

03-11-2007 04:44:21




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I have the opportunity to purchase a John Deere 620 LP tractor. We never had any LP tractors on the farm or in the neighborhood so I have no experience with them. What are the good or bad points of an LP tractor of that era ? Would like to hear your opinion and experiences.

1…..Cold weather starting…good or bad.
2…..Getting the fuel tank refilled problems.
3…..Problems with maintaining the fuel system…parts availability?
4…..Is an LP powered tractor worth more or less than a gas?
5…..Will a full tank of LP go longer than a full tank of gas?
6…..Any danger involved with the LP setup?

Thanks, Rich

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Glen in TX

03-11-2007 11:07:21




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 Re: LP tractors......Pro's and Con's in reply to Rich-WI, 03-11-2007 04:44:21  
Safety always #1 concern with any flammable fuel. If it hasn't run in a long while or is running don't expect near 50 year old LP components to be safe and if in doubt replace them. If you don't understand LPG get educated on it so you can be safe. If you buy the tractor JD did make a separate LP Operators Manual for it and also a good LP service manual SM2015 LP Systems. For copies of those contact JD publications 800-522-7448 or Ed 812-537-4622. Both of those tell you how LP fuels work and how to stay safe with your LP tractor and how to refuel it. You'll need to contact local LP dealer on refueling or if you already have a tank if it has a wet line in it to allow that. If you want to still work it hard in a day expect to refuel 2-3 times just like with other tractors that size. Parts? The JD LP system is NOT Impco but Century and many Century LP parts are still available thru local LP dealer, JD, JD parts vendors and other LP dealers. Carburetor is Marvel Schebler and parts still available. JD LP parts Nick Barbieri 512-221-4116. Nothing rare about a 620 LP row crop but there were not many standard tread LP models made.

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jmixigo

03-11-2007 05:33:37




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 Re: LP tractors......Pro's and Con's in reply to Rich-WI, 03-11-2007 04:44:21  
1-Starts at least as well as gas hot or cold. Burns clean so flooding is much less of a problem too.

2-Not a problem here in Alabama. Check with your local propane distributors though.

3-Lots of forklifts, generaters, and welders still use propane. The shut off solinoid, vaporiser, regulater, and even carbs are actually pretty generic. JD still has some parts, also google up "Impco".

4-Depends on the tractor. Usually a bit less. Certain JD tractors on LP can be worth a fortune.

5-Gallon for gallon about the same.

6-Different risks, but no more or less dangerous than gasolene. ALL WAYS turn off the fuel when not in use.

I've owned a half dozen LP tractors, and deal with LP welders and forklifts daily at work.

The LP NONexpert-jimmy

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Billy NY

03-11-2007 05:25:47




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 Re: LP tractors......Pro's and Con's in reply to Rich-WI, 03-11-2007 04:44:21  
Cold weather, only problem is when the fuel does not vaporize, and I'll asssume that some variables come into play here, blend of fuel and how your fuel system is operating. Below 20 deg F or so, I had some issues with this, put a re-build kit into my Impco vaporizor, did not get a chance to try a cold start, tractor has been in a heated shop, on a jobsite. Vaporizor has coolant from the radiator passing through it, connected with hoses, so once it warms up not an issue, others may have some better info on this. This on uses 30 lb forklift size tanks, so they can be left inside when it's cold out, helps when starting. When the fuel gets cold enough, can be hard to get it to vaporize, how people deal with this will vary, keep in a heated shop, block heater or some other means.

Can't say whether you get better fuel efficiency with LPG, 30lb tank seems to go for 5 hours on this old ford 850, which may be different then the JD 620 LPG set up.

They run cleaner, the oil stays clean and I'd imagine a properly maintained engine will last a lot longer then one that runs on conventional fuel.

If you have to run inside a building, lot cleaner to run.

I'd imagine having your own tank on site to re-fill, would be nice for re-fills.

Fuel system on this one was simple, vaporizor, hoses, some electrical connections, LPG carb, not sure what yours has, seem simple enough.

Probably not as many factory LPG models, have seen many for sale reasonable, some people shy away from them.

Safety, best to keep everything in maintained and in good order, common sense would tell me to be attentive and immediately repair any leaks, and use care if when re-filling. Common sense ?

I like my ford with the LPG set up, and it came in handy while using it inside a building recently, runs clean, oils stays very clean, and with the hours I put on this one, Sept '04 was the last time it was changed and it's still clear.

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