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O.T. - Snow Fences

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CB in central N

01-04-2008 09:59:34




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I live on a very windy slope which faces west, so needless to say, the house, the barns, and every thing else around gets battered by wind and blowing snow in the winter. I have been setting up snow fences (the plastic safety orange type), but they don"t stop the snow. Actually, the snow piles up on the wrong side of the fence a lot more.

As with everything else, I figure, there must be a technique to setting snow fences. I"ve seen some folks set multiple rows, stagger them, etc. Any suggestions or helpful hints? Thanks in advance to all who answer.

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Jerry/MT

01-04-2008 19:44:55




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to CB in central NY, 01-04-2008 09:59:34  
The fence doesn"t "catch" the snow on the windward side. The snow to falls on the down wind side becaused of the reduced velocity and the vortex caused by the iteraction of the wind and the fence. I"ve seen some data from I beliee Midwest Plans Service that gives the height to distance ratios for wind breaks and snow fences.
For a given wind speed and a given fence height, the snow will fall x feet down wind of the fence.

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RayP(MI)

01-04-2008 17:03:26




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to CB in central NY, 01-04-2008 09:59:34  
My experience with that plastic stufff is that it will tear up way too easily. I used some for a temporary fence while shearing my sheep last spring. Overnight we had a wind storm, really quite mild. Fence was torn up. With the winds we get here in the winter, I see a lot of that plastic shredded before the snow season starts. By the way, our county places snow fence about 50 yards out in the fields adjacent to drift prone areas. Give me the old slats and wire fence anytime!

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TomH in PA

01-04-2008 11:47:05




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to CB in central NY, 01-04-2008 09:59:34  
I've heard a rule of thumb is 10 - 15 times the height of the fence from what you want to keep snow out of.



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550Doug

01-04-2008 12:51:00




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to TomH in PA, 01-04-2008 11:47:05  
You're right. If the snow fence is 5 feet high, then the snow will fall in a wave pattern forming a crest at the fence and a trough at 55 feet down wind from the fence. So if you have a driveway to keep clear, you can put up a 4 ft fence 44 feet back, or a 5 ft fence 55 feet back.



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Allan In NE

01-04-2008 12:01:28




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to TomH in PA, 01-04-2008 11:47:05  
Don't you guys get any wind? I mean WIND? :>)

Allan



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71ford100

01-04-2008 14:46:53




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to Allan In NE, 01-04-2008 12:01:28  
They don't know what 50mph winds for three days are all about.



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TomH in PA

01-04-2008 14:11:26




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to Allan In NE, 01-04-2008 12:01:28  
I was going to say "10 - 15 times, except in Nebraska". But it seemed like a cheap shot. Anyway, the days are getting longer and Spring is in the air.



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RobMD

01-04-2008 14:17:57




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to TomH in PA, 01-04-2008 14:11:26  
We haven't seen the worst of it yet. The most snow comes in late Jan. through early Feb.



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in-too-deep

01-04-2008 13:47:44




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to Allan In NE, 01-04-2008 12:01:28  
Oh we get wind, be we also have those fancy trees, hills, and ditches you're always reading about in magazines ; )



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Pitch

01-04-2008 10:12:08




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to CB in central NY, 01-04-2008 09:59:34  
With your wind coming from the west, snow is going to pile up on the east side of the fence. My house backs to the west and I always get drifting on the East side of the roof and in the front yard. I set my fence about 50 yards west of the house and it drops the snow about 25 feet east of the fence. Does"nt prevent all my drift problems but it doeas help. People often set the fences to close.



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Allan In NE

01-04-2008 10:08:20




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to CB in central NY, 01-04-2008 09:59:34  
Move it out a few hundred hundred feet.

That's how they work. The snow piles up behind (downwind) of the fence.

Allan



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in-too-deep

01-04-2008 10:11:17




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to Allan In NE, 01-04-2008 10:08:20  
Yup. Maybe not a few hundred feet, 'cause that might give the wind and snow a chance to came back down. I'd say put your fence atleast 100 ft. back from where you don't want your snow to go. It's really just a wind fence. It slows the wind down and all the snow drops on the leeward side of the fence, so you want it back aways.



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Allan In NE

01-04-2008 11:58:35




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to in-too-deep, 01-04-2008 10:11:17  
Must be a regional thing then,

Out here, there would be at least a hundred feet of drifts. :>)

Allan



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John B. NE Ind.

01-04-2008 11:47:19




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to in-too-deep, 01-04-2008 10:11:17  
Funny that I was gonna post today on this subject. The people who bought my folks farm house [acreage stayed in the family] put up snow fence on both sides of the drive. About 3 ft.on each side running n-s. I just laughed to myself when I drove by but I kinda wanted to be able to tell him how far back it really should be. I was thinking 50 to 100 Ft.



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Nebraska Cowman

01-05-2008 05:21:37




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to John B. NE Ind., 01-04-2008 11:47:19  
Oh that is good. They will catch on the first time the wind blows and the driveway is full to the top of the fence and the ground bare on either side.



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Ken Macfarlane

01-04-2008 13:31:36




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to John B. NE Ind., 01-04-2008 11:47:19  
Same with windbreak trees, you see people plant them right on the windward side of their driveway and it makes me chuckle.



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Kent in NB

01-05-2008 06:39:41




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 Re: O.T. - Snow Fences in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 01-04-2008 13:31:36  
Neighbors did that up here. Took me 3 years of explaining and snowblowing bills to get them to cut off the bottom 4 feet of branchs on their pines. Driveway stays nice and clean now, and I don't have to dig them out!



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