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Mr. WELDOR

02-04-2008 17:21:08




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Just wondering if anybody had any questions about arc welding?




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mj

02-08-2008 18:48:04




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 1936, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

36 coupe said: (quoted from post at 15:33:32 02/08/08) Looks top heavy and rough.


Well, it's not top heavy but you're right about the rough. Like I said it's more of a mockup to get everything that I want where I want. I posted the picture just to show how the hi-freq unit is hooked into the circuit for in-to-deep in response to his post of Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:26 pm. But, it seems like the original purpose of my original post has been lost SO, go ahead, have at me! 8)

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mj

02-08-2008 10:38:42




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Vapet, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

135 Fan said: (quoted from post at 01:25:26 02/08/08) The truth hurts don't it? I thought you were finished on this subject? Like most true craftsmen, when I do a job, I finish the job so it looks professional. I don't care if it's fixing a wheel barrow handle or welding a 50 ton vessel. Anyone can see from your picture the unfinished and rusty welding cart that looks like it was made from some of the last pieces of scrap on the planet. No wonder you took jabs at me for complimenting a novice welder. His welds looked better than yours and you're the one with over 50 years experience! The difference between just a welder and a true craftsman is that the craftsman will always take the time to do a professional looking job. I never compromise quality just to get a job done. I take too much pride in my work, like any skilled tradesman would. If you're so sure of your skills as a welder, I'll over you a challenge. Start a new post with the same picture you posted and pole the people on this forum what they think of the quality and finish of your welding cart. Be sure to include the fact that you have been welding since 1954, have worked at many shops and even owned one and had formal training. After all, these are the facts aren't they? Also state that I think it's shoddy workmanship for a mega experienced welder. Let the people on here decide what kind of craftsman you are. If the majority thinks it looks professionally built. I will post that I don't have any clue what I'm talking about and won't offer any more advice on welding! What do you say? You could be rid of me? If I don't see a new post, I'll understand. You're too busy tarnishing your own brass! Maybe it would be better if I posted it to get the facts right? It's up to you. If you would have just politely disagreed with me without the comments, all this could have been avoided. I am done with this topic. I'm sure you'll read this though. Dave


OK - you set the parameters here but I'll just add that this is a photo that was taken right after the acquisition of the hi-frequency unit. The cart has been changed 3 or 4 times as various pieces are acquired. It is a PROTOTYPE and will never be painted as it will be replaced with a finished piece with all the necessary changes and additions have been worked out. If you were an actual, registered member of this forum we could take this squabble off the board with PMs. If you choose not to register then I, also, will consider this Donnybrook done and tied.

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135 Fan

02-08-2008 21:54:50




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-08-2008 10:38:42  
Not that anyone will go back this far to look but I'd rather expose you to the rest of the world for what you are than keep it to myself! That would be selfish. A craftsman you're not!Excuses, excuses! Are all of your projects prototypes because you aren't nearly as good as you think you are? Adding more pieces to an already bungled contraption? I thought you said you did drafting? How hard can it be to design a functional welding cart? No wonder you bought your press instead of making it. Would have been too hard to design. Don't pee like a puppy if you're going to run with the big dogs! WOW! Dave

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135 Fan

02-08-2008 22:06:40




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 135 Fan, 02-08-2008 21:54:50  
I just read your post again. You're actually going to build a second contraption like that! Wow! Wow! I will officially have to end any more involvement on this subject. I am going to burst at the seams and die after falling off my chair because my azz fell off. Dave



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36 coupe

02-08-2008 13:33:32




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-08-2008 10:38:42  
Looks top heavy and rough.



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135 Fan

02-08-2008 21:58:11




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 36 coupe, 02-08-2008 13:33:32  
Yea, at the very least. Thanks 36 Coupe for seeing what I see. Dave



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36 coupe

02-09-2008 16:07:19




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 135 Fan, 02-08-2008 21:58:11  
All my projects get painted when done.Ive built a carry all for my tractor, and a cultivator.My utility trailer was welded up over 40 years ago and is still used to haul sawed fire wood.Ive made a tire changer, welding table and a sharpener for my band saw blades.I have a 30 inch sheet metal brake that I built from plans.When my children had a pony years ago I made a pony cart.I built a log hauler to bring logs out for my sawmill.Most of the steel was new. I had the wheels and tires on hand.Total cost was 200.00.Ready made units cost 1500.00.The hauler lets me raise the logs up out of the dirt.Steel ramps were made that let me load big logs onto the saw mill.The ramps have one way dogs that keep the logs from rolling back.I have used scrap steel but find the projects never look good and never get built if you wait for the right scrap.Design take a while but my stuff comes out looking good and works right.Never used high freq unit.Seems to me it mimics DC so why not use DC in the first place.I built a DC converter for my AC welders.The steel frame for the cabinet was built with new steel.Total cost was 100.00.I welded up the reactor frame and used a length of a broken axle from a TO20 for the core.Fibreglas covered wire was used to wind the reactor.The converter has two cooling fans aimed at the diodes.I have always felt that if you go thru the work of making an item you should do it right.I build picnic tables.I build a nice one.I seem many that the builders should be ashamed of.A woman bought 2 of my tables last year after seeing one of mine at my daughters place.She asked me if I would make a childrens table.All the kids tables are junk,tippy and flimsy,built by people who take zero pride in their work.I scaled my table down to 3/4 size and it came out nice.I built another for my grand daughters birthday.Adults at the party were sitting at it.I thought it was too small for adults.Again it takes pride in your work to make good products.

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02-07-2008 18:17:59




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to HENRY E NC, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

mj said: (quoted from post at 20:10:57 02/07/08)
If BS was brass you'd have your own band.


Just so nobody thinks this was meant for anyone else it is directed at 135 Fan's post of Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:12 pm. I didn't think we needed to quote him again as the site only has so much capacity :roll:

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02-07-2008 18:10:57




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to HENRY E NC, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
If BS was brass you'd have your own band.



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135 Fan

02-07-2008 23:25:26




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-07-2008 18:10:57  
The truth hurts don't it? I thought you were finished on this subject? Like most true craftsmen, when I do a job, I finish the job so it looks professional. I don't care if it's fixing a wheel barrow handle or welding a 50 ton vessel. Anyone can see from your picture the unfinished and rusty welding cart that looks like it was made from some of the last pieces of scrap on the planet. No wonder you took jabs at me for complimenting a novice welder. His welds looked better than yours and you're the one with over 50 years experience! The difference between just a welder and a true craftsman is that the craftsman will always take the time to do a professional looking job. I never compromise quality just to get a job done. I take too much pride in my work, like any skilled tradesman would. If you're so sure of your skills as a welder, I'll over you a challenge. Start a new post with the same picture you posted and pole the people on this forum what they think of the quality and finish of your welding cart. Be sure to include the fact that you have been welding since 1954, have worked at many shops and even owned one and had formal training. After all, these are the facts aren't they? Also state that I think it's shoddy workmanship for a mega experienced welder. Let the people on here decide what kind of craftsman you are. If the majority thinks it looks professionally built. I will post that I don't have any clue what I'm talking about and won't offer any more advice on welding! What do you say? You could be rid of me? If I don't see a new post, I'll understand. You're too busy tarnishing your own brass! Maybe it would be better if I posted it to get the facts right? It's up to you. If you would have just politely disagreed with me without the comments, all this could have been avoided. I am done with this topic. I'm sure you'll read this though. Dave

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02-06-2008 22:38:12




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Yugrotcart, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

MichaelP said: (quoted from post at 16:46:01 02/06/08) What do you guys think about Lincoln AC/DC? How frustrated one is going to be with its DC output?


I've got a Lincoln AC/DC that serves me well enough.
I'd never call myself an expert-welder, but I'm happy with the DC welds I get using 7018 and 6011 on my old iron repairs.

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mj

02-06-2008 19:40:32




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to dave guest, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

135 Fan said: (quoted from post at 14:32:32 02/06/08) He can do a lot of work with it but it will be extremely frustrating for him. In some circumstances HF can lower duty cycle. If he had a HF unit or got one for free, then he could hook it up and try it. It will not be a substitute for a DC machine however. Since he would have to spend up to $100 or more and search for who knows how long to find a good HF unit, why not look for a used DC welder which should be easier to find. He could sell his Thunderbolt and recover some of his money. I didn't ask for your resume. I asked what tickets you have. It would give credibility to your posts and show you had some formal instruction. Are you even a licensed welder or just do it for a hobby?
I've never needed an HF unit for stick welding and I've used a few Thunderbolts with regular 7018 before the AC versions came out. In my opinion they are one of the harder machines to weld with. An AC225 Lincoln is much easier in my opinion as is a Forney, Comet and a host of others. I have no doubt the HF would make it easier to use. You know what they say when you assume something.
A DC welder from the 40's is superior to a low end buzz box. If you have an SA200, why bother with the Thunderbolt? TIG welding aluminum with a Thunderbolt would be a very slow process and an easy way to burn it up.

I give opinions based on many years of experience and training. For the most part, it is to help people who are having problems with their welding or equipment. That's why I always give an explanation for my responses. I take exception when someone disrespects my opinions with sarcastic comments as I'm sure most people would.

HF units are known to cause health risks and wreck some electronic equipment. HF can leak and cause these problems the same way a microwave oven could if the door was damaged. There is no safety on HF units or cables it runs through. I worked in a shop with a Syncrowave 250 TIG welder and none of the meters on the front worked because the high frequency went through the TIG torch cable that was still wrapped on the cable holders on the machine cart. The radio in the shop also got static when TIG welding with the HF. There is a reason they are getting away from HF as much as possible. Most plasma torches don't use it anymore and the hot set up for TIG uses an inverter power source that only needs HF for starting the arc on aluminum. These machines also use the same sharpened 2% thoriated tungsten for welding steel to weld aluminum and similar metals.
And lastly but most importantly I'll repeat: "BETTER EQUIPMENT MAKES FOR BETTER AND EASIER WELDS! ESPECIALLY FOR BEGINNERS." The fact that some people even on this post agree with me confirms what I'm saying. When I'm in a bookstore and see a welding book, I'll check it out. The winner of the AWS welder of the year award a few years ago even says to avoid a cheap AC machine when you're looking at buying a welder. He's a navy certified TIG welder and very good at it. You may have heard of him, Jesse James. Think what you want of him but he's a darn good welder. The book is the Monster Garage book on how to weld almost anything. Dave

"BETTER EQUIPMENT MAKES FOR BETTER AND EASIER WELDS! ESPECIALLY FOR BEGINNERS." The fact that some people even on this post agree with me confirms what I'm saying.' Hey, NOBODY disagrees with that but not everybody is shot with nickels either ..... the guy HAS a Thunderbolt and he wants to use it so stop saying NO and start saying YES! He can do it , I can do it .... why won't you do it? If you can't run a Thunderbolt I'm sorry ..... practice, practice, practice. :wink: What are my qualifications? Let's see now .... 2 years tech school at SCSC, worked in 3 fab shops, 4 welding and repair shops, owned my own shop in the Midwest, was a mechanical technician for Hewlett-Packard, was a maintenance weldor at Outboard Marine - Gale Products Div., repair weldor/technician at an IHC dealership, design draftsman at White Automotive Products ..... etc., etc.
Why don't I use the SA-200 instead of the the Miller? I do but for outside work :roll: C'mon man, give me a break here!
Yeah, I know of Jesse but so what? You got a TV and so do I !?!?
Oh, about the 3/32 rod crack .... why would I use 3/32 stick with the little Lincoln MIG sitting there ..... HELLO??/&*+%#

Ok, Ok .... I give up .... YOU WIN! You're 100% correct on everything and I'm 100% wrong ..... OK? Just remember one thing - Them that can do it does it and them that can't just read about it and run their mouth. (8)

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02-06-2008 21:12:39




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-06-2008 19:40:32  
So what welding certification or tickets do you have? Obviously you can't weld very good with the Thunderbolt or you wouldn't need the high frequency! Hello! How many of the shops that you worked in ran an AC Thunderbolt? If they did they can't have done much welding. Burning larger than 3/32 rods would put you in a lower duty cycle, which wouldn't let you weld for very long. Cables can be run in the shop from outside. I never claimed to know everything. If the HF units are so great, how come buzz boxes don't come with them? It's not a contest of who's right or who's wrong. It's about credibility! Them that do have qualifications to do it and have to keep renewing those qualifications. Considering you first struck an arc in 1954, I'd expect you to have several different tickets. By the sounds of it, you have 2 years at a tech school in over 50 years of welding. Am I missing something here? With all of your so called experience, working as a maintenance or repair welder just doesn't cut it. Have you done any X-ray or other welding that requires NDT testing? Have you ever had to follow a strict procedure qualification? As far as running of the mouth, you are the one who originally made the sarcastic remarks toward me. Especially when I complimented someone on their welds. There was absolutely no basis for this! Complimenting a beginner on a good job is the best way to boost their confidence and motivate them. Having good equipment is next. By the way, if I built a cart for my precious welder, I'd at least clean up my welds and give it a decent paint job so it looks like something. How you present your own work and craftsmanship goes a long way in showing potential customers what kind of quality they can expect! A rusty and cobbled together welding cart in a dirty, messy shop certainly isn't going to have customers flocking to your door. Practice, practice, practice, wink! Your press looks good but it looks like you bought it instead of making it yourself. Don't trust your own welds? Probably cost more than your welder. When someone wins a very prestigous award and gives a recommendation to beginners in that industry, it's a pretty safe bet they know what there talking about. The other experienced welders on here agree with him. If you're going to spend money to improve an AC welder, why not look for a better welder that might not cost much more and would be better in the long run? You get what you pay for. Sometimes it's best to wait till you can afford what would work the best for you and cause less headaches. Thanks for the picture of your workmanship. Very impressive...not! Dave

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02-06-2008 08:19:26




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Bob, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

135 Fan said: (quoted from post at 03:25:20 02/06/08) Your still using technology from about 1954 as well. Maybe you got a bad flash back then and are stuck in a time warp? Hope you never need a pacemaker as the High Frequency could kill you! Plasma torches are getting away from high frequency and the hottest set up for TIG uses an inverter power source that only needs high frequency for starting the arc on Aluminum and also uses the same pointed 2% thoriated tungsten that is used for welding steel. A high frequency unit on your machine will lower your duty cycle and since your using a welder with a low duty cycle in the first place, you must be doing all your welding with 3/32 rods. A light duty AC current machine even with using a high frequency is no substitute for a decent DC current machine. Most of the better rods are used with DC current. AC and high frequency is not the same. A welder like yours typically will bring about $100 at auction because that's all it's worth. If you only need it twice a year, that might be OK. If you want to actually fabricate things a DC welder would be superior. A welder like an Idealarc 250 or Miller Dialarc 250 will hold its value far better than a cheap buzz box. What is wrong with telling someone who doesn't weld for a living, his welds are good? You're critisizing me for giving sound, straight up advice. By the way, how many tickets do you have? Burned much 1/4 inch 7018 that had to pass X-ray and ultrasound inspection? Or had to tape the stinger on a 4 ft. broom handle to reach inside a vessel to weld a tray in while turning it at the same time and no undercut was allowed? Ever done any gouging? Oh sorry, you need a DC machine for that. Better equipment makes for better and easier welds! Especially for beginners! Nickel and diming may work for you but any real welder would spend a little more to have equipment that makes his job easier and better. I'm surprised you're not using a 110 volt buzz box. They're even cheaper. Whether I first struck an arc in 1920 or last year, makes no difference as long as an honest, educated opinion is given. Given the choice, any experienced welder would choose a better machine than a low end AC buzz box. Even if it cost a little more. A used DC welder like an Idealarc 250 is still superior to a brand spanking new buzz box! If you disagree with my opinions or advice, fine, there's no need to be sarcastic about it. All I said was the facts of the matter. Should I have said the welds in the pictures were horrible? They were pretty decent for 7018. A 7014 may have been easier and smoother but not nearly as strong. A DC welder would be better than a low end AC machine. The DC single phase machines also have AC so then a high frequency could be used for TIG welding Aluminum or similar metals. However, most people on here are never going to do any TIG welding of Aluminum. For steel TIG you need DC and no High Frequency is needed. It's getting like you can't even post good information without someone trying to knock you down. Dave


The thing is .... DAVE .... the guy already has the Thunderbolt and, whether you will admit it or not, he can do a lot of work with it. As for the hi-freq unit reducing the duty cycle I can tell you've never had the cover off of a Mid-States unit .... Right? As for have have I ever ..... how many tags .... etc. I'm not going to put out my resume' unless you're making me a big-bucks job offer. 8)
BY the way - You still did not answer my question: 'Have you ever run the hi-freq over the AC' .... I'll assume that your answer must be NO :oops:

AND - Does my SA-200 qualify as a 'real' welder or is that too 'stuck in the 50s' as well? :roll:

I will admit that you give good information in your posts .... just lightening up on your opinions of different equipment and its' worthiness would help your presentation immensely.

Since I was jousting you a bit I'll let the 'pace maker' thing slide as it obviously was something you felt I didn't know and you were worried about my well-being :? Thank you.

So here we are in a new day and all is semi-right with the world so I wish you a good one. ADMF :wink:

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02-06-2008 12:32:32




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-06-2008 08:19:26  
He can do a lot of work with it but it will be extremely frustrating for him. In some circumstances HF can lower duty cycle. If he had a HF unit or got one for free, then he could hook it up and try it. It will not be a substitute for a DC machine however. Since he would have to spend up to $100 or more and search for who knows how long to find a good HF unit, why not look for a used DC welder which should be easier to find. He could sell his Thunderbolt and recover some of his money. I didn't ask for your resume. I asked what tickets you have. It would give credibility to your posts and show you had some formal instruction. Are you even a licensed welder or just do it for a hobby? I've never needed an HF unit for stick welding and I've used a few Thunderbolts with regular 7018 before the AC versions came out. In my opinion they are one of the harder machines to weld with. An AC225 Lincoln is much easier in my opinion as is a Forney, Comet and a host of others. I have no doubt the HF would make it easier to use. You know what they say when you assume something. A DC welder from the 40's is superior to a low end buzz box. If you have an SA200, why bother with the Thunderbolt? TIG welding aluminum with a Thunderbolt would be a very slow process and an easy way to burn it up.
I give opinions based on many years of experience and training. For the most part, it is to help people who are having problems with their welding or equipment. That's why I always give an explanation for my responses. I take exception when someone disrespects my opinions with sarcastic comments as I'm sure most people would.
HF units are known to cause health risks and wreck some electronic equipment. HF can leak and cause these problems the same way a microwave oven could if the door was damaged. There is no safety on HF units or cables it runs through. I worked in a shop with a Syncrowave 250 TIG welder and none of the meters on the front worked because the high frequency went through the TIG torch cable that was still wrapped on the cable holders on the machine cart. The radio in the shop also got static when TIG welding with the HF. There is a reason they are getting away from HF as much as possible. Most plasma torches don't use it anymore and the hot set up for TIG uses an inverter power source that only needs HF for starting the arc on aluminum. These machines also use the same sharpened 2% thoriated tungsten for welding steel to weld aluminum and similar metals. And lastly but most importantly I'll repeat: "BETTER EQUIPMENT MAKES FOR BETTER AND EASIER WELDS! ESPECIALLY FOR BEGINNERS." The fact that some people even on this post agree with me confirms what I'm saying. When I'm in a bookstore and see a welding book, I'll check it out. The winner of the AWS welder of the year award a few years ago even says to avoid a cheap AC machine when you're looking at buying a welder. He's a navy certified TIG welder and very good at it. You may have heard of him, Jesse James. Think what you want of him but he's a darn good welder. The book is the Monster Garage book on how to weld almost anything. Dave

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02-05-2008 17:25:01




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135 Fan said: (quoted from post at 11:56:17 02/05/2008) Your welds are very acceptable..... ..... Dave


Well, Billy, there ya go ..... .. the 'pope' done blessed ya! :roll:



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02-05-2008 17:20:54




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to glennster, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

Walt Davies said: (quoted from post at 01:28:24 02/05/08) I have been around a few years here is my old Froney 250 commercial welder.

Walt

PS its still under the lifetime warranty.

<a href="http://s77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/WaltDavies/?action=view&current=ForneyWelder1962.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j50/WaltDavies/ForneyWelder1962.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>


Yeah, Walt ..... that's what I'm talkin' about! Some of these 'experts' on here never even heard of Forney but I've got 2 of 'em and they both work good. :D

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02-05-2008 17:12:53




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135 Fan said: High frequency isn't for stick welding. It is mostly for TIG welding non ferous metals.


Well, there ya said it again and AGAIN I ask: Have you ever tried it? Hello....? By the way I first struck an arc in 1954 ..... . How about you? 8)

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02-06-2008 01:25:20




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-05-2008 17:12:53  
Your still using technology from about 1954 as well. Maybe you got a bad flash back then and are stuck in a time warp? Hope you never need a pacemaker as the High Frequency could kill you! Plasma torches are getting away from high frequency and the hottest set up for TIG uses an inverter power source that only needs high frequency for starting the arc on Aluminum and also uses the same pointed 2% thoriated tungsten that is used for welding steel. A high frequency unit on your machine will lower your duty cycle and since your using a welder with a low duty cycle in the first place, you must be doing all your welding with 3/32 rods. A light duty AC current machine even with using a high frequency is no substitute for a decent DC current machine. Most of the better rods are used with DC current. AC and high frequency is not the same. A welder like yours typically will bring about $100 at auction because that's all it's worth. If you only need it twice a year, that might be OK. If you want to actually fabricate things a DC welder would be superior. A welder like an Idealarc 250 or Miller Dialarc 250 will hold its value far better than a cheap buzz box. What is wrong with telling someone who doesn't weld for a living, his welds are good? You're critisizing me for giving sound, straight up advice. By the way, how many tickets do you have? Burned much 1/4 inch 7018 that had to pass X-ray and ultrasound inspection? Or had to tape the stinger on a 4 ft. broom handle to reach inside a vessel to weld a tray in while turning it at the same time and no undercut was allowed? Ever done any gouging? Oh sorry, you need a DC machine for that. Better equipment makes for better and easier welds! Especially for beginners! Nickel and diming may work for you but any real welder would spend a little more to have equipment that makes his job easier and better. I'm surprised you're not using a 110 volt buzz box. They're even cheaper. Whether I first struck an arc in 1920 or last year, makes no difference as long as an honest, educated opinion is given. Given the choice, any experienced welder would choose a better machine than a low end AC buzz box. Even if it cost a little more. A used DC welder like an Idealarc 250 is still superior to a brand spanking new buzz box! If you disagree with my opinions or advice, fine, there's no need to be sarcastic about it. All I said was the facts of the matter. Should I have said the welds in the pictures were horrible? They were pretty decent for 7018. A 7014 may have been easier and smoother but not nearly as strong. A DC welder would be better than a low end AC machine. The DC single phase machines also have AC so then a high frequency could be used for TIG welding Aluminum or similar metals. However, most people on here are never going to do any TIG welding of Aluminum. For steel TIG you need DC and no High Frequency is needed. It's getting like you can't even post good information without someone trying to knock you down. Dave

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02-06-2008 04:54:01




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Ive been welding for 50 years,never used DC until 5 years ago.I borrowed an old Airco mig welder that also did AC DC stick welding.I used mig to fix the cab on my old truck.I tried DC on some welding jobs and saw the difference right away.Didnt have the money for a DC welder so went to work on a DC converter for my AC welders.I had some parts and bought some for the project.Cost about 100.00 to build.I would not buy an AC only welder today if I was just starting to weld.I have used a 100 amp welder in the past and would not take one as a gift.120 volt welders can barley start an arc on stick welding.I did buy a 130 Miller mig welder used.It works well on jobs within its range.Beginning welders should wait until they can afford an AC DC welder...

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135 Fan

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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 36 coupe, 02-06-2008 04:54:01  
Thank you! I couldn't agree more. Dave



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Greg_Ky

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 A Helpful Chart in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
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135 Fan

02-05-2008 10:12:10




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 Re: A Helpful Chart in reply to Greg_Ky, 02-05-2008 07:43:35  
A couple minor things on the electrode chart. 6011 is mostly used on AC as it was designed to be similar to 6010 but would work on AC machines. 7018AC is also designed especially for use on AC machines. I wouldn't say 7018 has low penetration compared to 7014. That's deceiving as for an equal size weld, the 7018 will be much stronger. When setting the heat on a machine, don't necessarily go by what the machine says. All machines will be different. Judge heat by how the rod welds and what the weld looks like. Most welders will use a piece of scrap to set their heat on a machine they aren't familar with. It beats having to grind out and redo a weld. Dave

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hayray

02-05-2008 04:01:30




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
Aren't the 6013 rods an all position rod also. I make really good welds witht he 7018 on the flat but going vertical is don't do nutin' good. I agree that 6013 is a farmers rod. I know none of you ever do this but I myself have welded stuff back together with out proper paint and rust, and dirt removal, mainly cause I only had enough time to pull up to the shop and weld and get back to the field. Again, I know I am the only one who has done this.

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135 Fan

02-06-2008 01:33:29




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to hayray, 02-05-2008 04:01:30  
The "1" in both of those rods indicates it is an all position rod. However in larger diameter( 1/4 in.)even with the "1", it is almost impossible to weld out of position. Dave



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Walt Davies

02-04-2008 23:28:24




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
I have been around a few years here is my old Froney 250 commercial welder.
Walt
PS its still under the lifetime warranty.

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super99

02-05-2008 01:32:01




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Man, Walt, you got a dandy! I had one of those back in the 70's and I LOVED IT! The heat ranges wre so close together, you could really tune it in. Wish I had another. Chris



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cat236

02-04-2008 22:21:46




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
I would like to ask several questions,I have A John Deere 250 amp stick welder.I typically use it in the DC arrangement,I get "bit" by a small screw on the stinger handle if I accidentally touch it while runnning a bead.unnit welds easier in Dc.It really "bites" if I plug into my AC side.I have a lever that pulls out on the upper left corner of control panel it pulls out at an angle and is a lock for the amp dial.If I try to change amps above 90 it is difficult to turn dial, and once there it will slowly work its way back down.I am not sure who made this for Deere but need a few parts for it that Deere no longer carries.Lastly I am "vertically challenged",I can run a beautiful bead when on a horizontal plane,but vertical I cant keep my hands steady.I have a medical implant that is connected to my spinal cord,it helps control my guts.I am not supposed to be around EMP's, I think this is what causes my tremors.I have tried starting from the bottom and the top but I cant seem to brace myself well enough to be steady.Thank you in advance

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135 Fan

02-04-2008 22:58:04




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to cat236, 02-04-2008 22:21:46  
Can you turn the screw in some more and put electrical tape around the stinger? I've been shocked by the stinger before as well. Usually at the same setting (Lever location) AC will be more amps than DC. DC is smoother and easier to weld with. It sounds like your machine may have been made by Century. Apparently Lincoln bought out Century. Maybe your machine just needs a good cleaning inside and the amp control will work better. Vertical welding takes steady hands and lots of practice. Always use two hands whenever possible while welding. It is much better than the crash and burn method using one hand. If you can rest your left arm on something to help steady your stinger hand will help a lot. This is assuming you hold the stinger in your right hand. Hope this helps. Dave

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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to LEH, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  

in-too-deep said: (quoted from post at 19:26:11 02/04/08) Been wanting to ask this for sometime now. I've got a Miller Thinderbolt 220V AC stick welder at work. It's harder than heck to strike up an arc. Once it gets rollin' I can weld all day, but if I stop, and instantly try to start again it just won't catch. I use 7018's and 6013's, and I even tried drying them real good in an oven and it didn't improve. Any ideas?


Run the Miller on the 'low' tap whenever you can as that gives you less amps but more OCV (OpenCircuitVoltage) which starts better with most rods.
If you can get your hands on a hi-frequency unit you'll be able to run lo-hy (7018) and such like you were using DC; all rod types start dead easy with the hi-frequency running over the welder's AC. I've seen the older MID-STATES units on eBay for $50-100; I've got one and they are a good unit. Once you get hi freq-ed you're pretty close to a TIG setup; all the extras you need for that is a bottle of argon, flowmeter and tig torch once you get the hi frequency unit. Here's my setup (the bottle and TIG torch aren't visible in the photo):

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135 Fan

02-04-2008 22:16:08




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to mj, 02-04-2008 21:28:38  
It has been said by some of the most experienced welders, that the biggest cause of frustration for a beginner welder is having a cheap AC buzz box to try and learn on. The differnce between a decent welder like an Idealarc 250 AC/DC Lincoln and a buzz box is night and day. Instead of going to all the trouble of finding a High Freq. and hooking it up to a less than desirable buzz box, why not just get a better welder? High frequency isn't for stick welding. It is mostly for TIG welding non ferous metals. A good welding machine will last a long, long time. Good used machines are also out there. $500 or even $1000 on a machine that will probably last your lifetime and save you thousands more seems like the most logical choice to me. If all you can afford is a buzz box, expect that you're going to do a lot of cursing and get really frustrated with it. Sorry. That's just the way it is. With lots of practice you can do an OK job with a buzz box but why? Try a good DC welder for a few minutes and you'll never want to go back to a buzz box. It really is a night and day difference. Dave

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RossIL

02-05-2008 07:15:12




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 135 Fan, 02-04-2008 22:16:08  
I love my Lincoln IdealArc 250. If you look around at auctions everyone wants a MiG welder. I found my IdeaArc with built in cart, 100 ft of leads with quick connects for 220.00 and it looks like new. Only thing it needed was a new stinger. I love it. The only thing I use AC for is the High Frequency TIG. Good DC welders are out there look at industrial places closing out. Oh and as I'm sure 135fan knows: make sure they're not 3 phase. Not that I've ever made that mistake on a 40.00 welder..... .

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MichaelP

02-06-2008 15:46:01




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to RossIL, 02-05-2008 07:15:12  
What do you guys think about Lincoln AC/DC? How frustrated one is going to be with its DC output?



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teddy52food

02-04-2008 20:38:23




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
A lot of it depends on the ac welder itself. The newer welders have aluminum windings and are not as good as the old ones with copper windings. I have a welder that I bought in the 60's and use 10018 ,7018, 7014 , 6011, and 6013, nickol, 308ss and others. Also make sure your imput wiring is heavy copper to the welder.



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Cman

02-04-2008 17:53:33




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:21:08  
It seems that people on the board use 6011,6013
7014 and 7018 rods at will. I am confused, I have a 225 amp Hobart welder, and I primarly use 6011 and 6013 rods. Have tried to use 7018 1/8 inch but cannot get them to burn. Is 7018 considered a DC rod, not to be used on an AC machine. It seems that folks use 6011 and 7018 interchangeably. Someone please help me out.

Also I have about 75 pounds of 7018 1/4" new rods I would like to get rid of. Anyone interested my e-mail is open, pay shipping.

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135 Fan

02-04-2008 21:51:08




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Cman, 02-04-2008 17:53:33  
No disrespect to the people on this board but I think a lot of times, people without the proper knowledge, will just grab what ever rods are lying around. It would be a good idea to go to a welding supply or book store and get a book on welding that includes a section on rods. Knowing what different rods are designed for and their characteristics will help considerably. Dave



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RossIL

02-05-2008 07:11:28




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My dad was a pipefitter for 40 years he said the two keys to good welding were knowing your rods and knowing what metals. The rest is practice and experience. I think Lincoln makes a great book for about 30.00. I think its it called the Lincoln Welding Handbook. It's the size of a dictionary.
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IH2444

02-04-2008 18:51:43




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Cman, 02-04-2008 17:53:33  
The 7018 is a DC rod, they do make an ac variant thought 7018AC.



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in-too-deep

02-04-2008 19:38:34




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I'm going to venture a guess. That MIGHT be why those 7018's won't work on the AC welder!! Maybe, just maybe!!! I'll get me some 7014's and start looking for things to weld.



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MR. WELDOR

02-04-2008 17:59:26




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Cman, 02-04-2008 17:53:33  
I believe 7018 is considered a dc rod but can be used on ac as well. I use the 7014 and 6013 rods alot because the 7014 is strong and produce a nice looking weld, along with the 6013. Now lets move on to the 6011-A.K.A. Farmers rod- a very very messy rod to use. strikes an arc easy and it really cuts into the base metal, good for thicker metal and where it isnt possible to get a grinder to remove old paint, grease, oil etc becuse it really cuts into metal.

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135 Fan

02-04-2008 21:41:28




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to MR. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:59:26  
7018 is a DC+ or AC rod. This is common knowledge for people in the welding trade. Farmers or people who weld for a hobby may not know this. 7014 is stronger than 6013 but not just because it has a higher tensile strength. Tensile strength is only one factor of many in determining weld strength. 6010(DC) or 6011(AC) are actually stronger than 7014. They are designed for dynamic loading, where 7014 is designed for static loading. 6013 is considered more the "farmer rod" than 6011 because it is easier to strike an arc and weld with for beginners. Something to consider is that pipelines when welded by hand, are often done with 6010. 7014 and especially 6013 are never specified for more important welds that may be under stress(dynamic loading). I've discussed static and dynamic loading before and most people have never heard of these terms used when relating to welding. I think I have come up with an easier way to explain it. The terms are used in aircraft. When a plane is flying, the wing is moving up and down and is under stress. This is dynamic loading. 747 wings are tested to the extremes of dynamic loading, to make sure the plane is safe under the harshest conditions possible. If the plane was sitting in a hanger, the wings would only be under their own weight (static loading). I have often heard the term static display model used for aircraft that is only on display and not flown. I hope this makes it easier to understand. It's good to want to give advice, just make sure to give the right advice. People can be hurt or get really frustrated from using the wrong and/or bad advice. I'm not trying to disrepect you Mr. Weldor. I am a little curious about how much experience you have in the welding industry. You don't seem sure of some of your responses. A little background would help to back up your advice. This is good site with lots of very knowledgable people on almost any subject that comes up. Dave

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02-04-2008 17:26:11




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Been wanting to ask this for sometime now. I've got a Miller Thinderbolt 220V AC stick welder at work. It's harder than heck to strike up an arc. Once it gets rollin' I can weld all day, but if I stop, and instantly try to start again it just won't catch. I use 7018's and 6013's, and I even tried drying them real good in an oven and it didn't improve. Any ideas?



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trucker40

02-06-2008 12:14:43




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Bad ground.



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Rusty Wheel

02-04-2008 19:20:20




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Sounds like you might not be getting a good ground or the stinger needs cleaned. The 7014 is an easy arc low hydrogen rod that runs real good on these types of welders. Also, stainless rod runs good too. Cast rod flows nice too. Did you try reversing the polarity? RW



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135 Fan

02-04-2008 20:46:03




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Rusty Wheel, 02-04-2008 19:20:20  
First of all 7014 is not a low hydrogen rod. It is an iron powder type rod. Secondly, on an AC machine, there is no such thing as reversing the polarity. AC means alternating current. 7018's made specifically for AC machines will work better on them than the standard 7018. That's why they make them. A standard 7018 is designed to be used on DC reverse polarity or AC current but on the cheaper AC welders, they can be more difficult to weld with than the 7018 that are made especially for AC machines. 7018 are usually the only rods that are stored in a rod oven. 7018 are low hydrogen rods and way stronger than 7014. As long as other rods are kept dry, they shouldn't have any problems. Some rods like 6011 or 6010(DC) can dry out too much. 6011 although a rougher looking weld will be easier to strike an arc with using an AC machine. Dave

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Mr.WELDOR

02-04-2008 17:44:02




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ANd I hope your money situation with your parents works out good. :)



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02-04-2008 17:38:57




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I personally use the 7014 alot. Their easy to use, their strong, and it produces a nice looking weld, so does the 6013 rod. but the 7018 i never had much luck with. it would seem it was hard to get an arc and then out of no where it would just drop the arc and id have to start over again.



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trucker40

02-06-2008 12:26:50




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You have to know what you are doing with a 7018.They dont work real well with an AC welder,but they will work.The low hydrogen part is what makes them a better weld.After you get enough practice to use them you dont need any other rod except a 6011 with your Ac welder,maybe nickel if you weld cast,but you can even weld some cast with 7018.6013 is not that good of a rod for anything but sheetmetal.It doesnt penetrate a lot,sort of lays on top of the surface.It deposites so fast it doesnt have time to dig in.It maybe looks good to you after you lay a bead with it,but its not strong at all,and mostly a waste of time to use.

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Billy NY

02-05-2008 06:03:54




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. Weldor, 02-04-2008 17:38:57  
What are you using 7018 electrodes with, what kind of machine and settings ?

I can see that happening with this electrode if there is not enough amps and or heat, you can only turn the power down to a certain point to where it will stick when you try to start an arc. Slag on the end of the electrode will close the circuit, for the re-strike you have to knock off the slag, so if you knock it off by tapping against the work, you can start a cycle of this happening. On lower power you need a steady hand, maintaining the arc length uniformly is important, slight change in distance it will stick or close the circuit.

This electrode likes heat, I run a Miller NT250 trailblazer, commonly using Lincoln Electric 7018 DC electrodes between 90 and 120 amps 1/8" and 5/32" and am self taught so I am no expert, but through practice I can produce a very respectable weld, with good base metal penetration, little or no porosity and a good weld profile. I did have some good knowledge of welding practice having been in the construction industry, dealing with AWS criteria and inspections, which helps. The 7018 is strong and does seem to make a good choice for equipment repairs and steel fabrication at home.


Not bad for an amateur, I modified a garage door hanger in when making repairs to an old garage door in a customers building, darned thing was improperly lag bolted to the bottom of wood roof trusses, to the bottom chord, was ready to pull out and the door would have fell on someone soon. Cleaned off the paint where the welds were to be, used the Miller NT 250 with 7018, also it's real important to have a decent clean lense in your shield, as well as having the work illuminated, that was my biggest problem, once I could see the work better, the weld profiles immediately improved.

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Mr. WELDOR

02-04-2008 17:29:05




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Does it happen all the time, even with new rods?
Because sometimes when i weld the slag builds up on the end of the rod and the it cant reach the base metal to strike an arc until i chip the flux off the end of the rod.



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02-04-2008 17:44:16




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Mr. WELDOR, 02-04-2008 17:29:05  
Yep, I considered that first thing, but it didn't make a difference. I can't even get the rod to stick to the metal. I'll pick up some 7014's and see what happens.



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Billy NY

02-05-2008 06:39:44




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Clean connections, ground/stinger, heat 90-120 amps on the miller NT 250, polarity was stick positive and is what did the welds above which are not too bad for an inexperienced amateur.

If I use the high end of that setting, the penetration and heat is unreal with 1/8" or 5/32" 7018, it will blow right through thin material with this machine, but you can strike and re-stike this electrode and weld smoothly especially in position all day long with correct heat.

The one thing about these electrodes I have noticed, to re-strike, you have to take the electrode off the stinger, rub it on something rough, knock off the slag on the end, without knocking off too much flux, there is always a coating of slag on the end, it will act like you have no ground, same happens if you arc out on the first strike with a fresh rod, take it out of the stinger, tap or rub off the thin layer of slag and it will re-strike, correct heat and arc distance + all the other correct habits make a big difference, now I can strike and re-strike without losing the arc, and don't waste any part of an electrode. I'm not sure what the pro's do, but on larger jobs, they burn complete electrodes and don't re-strike in the middle, I would imagine the electrodes vary by MFR., but these lincoln electric electrodes always leave a thin layer of slag on the end, one tap and it will re-strike.

Vertical is no doubt harder to learn with 7018, too much heat the puddle can drip off, too little it sticks, but for any easily accessed repairs around the farm, shop, or home, in position looking over the work, if you have enough range on a machine I would think 7018 would be no problem to learn and become satisfied with the results. I've done the trial and error and went through all the sticking, re-strike etc., good learning experience, but once finding the heat range this electrode works well with, all those problems went away.

Thin material is tough for me still with this electrode, really have to be careful, a quick spot weld, then let cool, repeat, works for some things, but on that note, also time to learn to use an electrode or another method better suited for the purpose, as this electrode does not do well without lots of heat.

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135 Fan

02-05-2008 09:56:17




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Billy NY, 02-05-2008 06:39:44  
Your welds are very acceptable. Having a good machine makes all the difference. 7018 are famous for getting a little ball of slag on the end of the rod. Hobart had one of the first 7018 designed especially for AC machines. One of the best characteristics of the rods was that they didn't get the slag build up on the end and could be restruck easily. On DC though, I got porosity. In shops welders will tap the rods on the concrete floor or with the chipping hammer to knock the slag off the end. Make sure the chipping hammer isn't grounded. A lot of times with a good machine, you can just tap the rod a little harder on the work piece to knock the slag off and start welding. You have to be careful though so you don't get stray arc strikes. They cause weak spots in the steel. It's best to strike the arc ahead of where you want to start the weld and then weld over where you struck the arc. 7018 aren't usually used for tacking unless it's large pieces or the tacks are under a lot of stress. 6010, 6011(AC) are often used for tacking because they make a flatter tack and are easy to restrike. Tacks should normally be welded over. Always chip the slag off a weld to determine the quality of the weld. The slag can look horrible, while the weld can be sound. 7018 should be run vertical up. The idea is weave side to side creating a small shelf for the puddle to build up on as you progress upwards. It takes some practice. 7018 isn't the best choice for thin material as it's easier to burn through with. Dave

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Billy NY

02-05-2008 11:46:39




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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to 135 Fan, 02-05-2008 09:56:17  
That makes sense, I've often done the same thing, tapped the electrode, usually right where the weld is to be. I figured it would be a good electrode and machine to learn from, having been around them often on job sites. I've had refinery qualified pipe fitters doing 20" butt welded pipe that were magnetic resonance tested and were flawless. The did 2 types of tests on this job one was after the pipe was tested and pressurized 1 1/2 times operating pressure, all welds were flawless, these guys would start on each side and meet on each pass.

When you mention the chipping hammer being grounded, the rule is obviously never make yourself part of the ground. I never touch grounded work except with the electrode when welding, so for example in layman's terms if you were striking and maintaining an arc, and you touched the work with the hammer, do you become part of the circuit ?

This is one thing that I've never been clear on. What kind of situation is common to or will get you jolted when arc welding. I should probably read up on this, as I don't think I've got a full understanding of it, but do take my time and play it safe, that is some serious power when you think about it.


Those welds are'nt too bad, everything I've done so far with this electrode seems to have held great, definitely strong. It really makes a difference to be able to see the work, you have to see the molten puddle, it sure took some practice to be able to get a weld profile to look decent, most of it was being able to see the work. I pushed myself to learn as I used to supervise ironworkers and as well as having a need to repair and fabricate things at home. It is a good skill to know, that machine was well worth $1000 I paid for it at auction in '02, think it's a '99 or '00.

There is so much to learn when it comes to welding it is mind boggling. The first major project I did was some repairs to the frame on my f-600, but I still wonder if every procedure I used was correct for the work, it's held fine and does not look too bad at all I took all kinds of photos of the progress, would make an interesting post for comments and learning.

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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to Billy NY, 02-05-2008 11:46:39  
If you learn to weld with 7018, you'll be able to weld pretty much anything made of steel that broke(within reason). Pipe welding has to be pretty near perfect. When you do your tests, the pipe is cut into strips, the welds ground flat on both sides and then bent 180 Deg. around a rounded die. Half of the bends are from the root side(inside) of the pipe and the other half is done from the face(outside) of the pipe. You are allowed a maximum combined flaw from all bends of not more than 1/8 of an inch. When I mentioned about tapping the rod on the chipping hammer, I just meant to make sure you pick up the hammer off the work piece so it doesn't arc. You won't become part of the circuit. Welders are designed so that the open circuit voltage isn't high enough to kill you. It can give you a shock but not very often. Like someone mentioned, you could get a shock from a screw on the stinger if your bare hand touched it. I once was welding a broken water line on a golf course and because the ground was so wet I got a shock just touching the ground while going into the hole. Wet conditions caused the current to go through the rubber on the cables. I'd be willing to bet that if you tried to do the same welds, in the pictures, on a low end AC machine, you wouldn't have anywhere near the same result. Even if you had a high frequency. After having a good machine, being able to see exactly what you are doing and getting in a comfortable position are the most important factors in producing quality welds. Dave

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 Re: Does anybody need any arc welding tips,insturcions, my 2 in reply to in-too-deep, 02-04-2008 17:44:16  
What are you welding and at what amps are you welding? SOmetimes if I have the amps too low it will be hard to strike an arc and it wont stick to the metal.



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