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Mark W.

04-07-2008 07:25:15




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Woke up to a beautiful day finally her in NW Pennsylvania. Decided to take a walk around the parents 420 acre farm and took my rifle in case of the opportunity of shooting some woodchucks. They were out. Had three by 9:00. Around 9:30 i was lying in the corner of the field, woods to my back, looking across the valley through my scope when a lady and two of her kids walked out of my parents woods behind me and started scolding me about shooting groundhogs on a nice day when she was out with her family. I learned quickly from her that she lived in a new subdivision about 3/4 mile down the road. She really angered me and cont. to tell me that it was ridiculous that she and her family didnt feel safe w/ rednecks like me around. I had on my orange hat, had clear shooting lanes, and would never take a questionable shot. I informed her, nicely as she was with her kids, that she needed to haul her @ss of the property as quickly as she could and not to step foot on the property unless she spoke to my father. She also complained that we must be the ones mudding up the road with our trucktors as she called them. Why do they feel that it is their right to step foot into an open field or woods yet would complain if someone walked through their yard????? ?????

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mjbrown

04-08-2008 17:20:00




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Keep up the good work. My current tool of choice is a Ruger 77.17 .17HMR. Very effective yet not very loud.



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greygoat

04-08-2008 07:28:59




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I am a hunter!!!!, but would nrver think of
wantonly killing anything that I wouldn't eat.
SO, How did the woodchucks taste?? Or did you
just shoot them for the joy of killing, and leave
them to rot?



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Mark W.

04-08-2008 11:30:50




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to greygoat, 04-08-2008 07:28:59  
Come to think of it, I also have trapped a mouse or two in the past. I guess I need to reevaluate myself. I must be ethically corrupt!!



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Mark W.

04-08-2008 11:24:29




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to greygoat, 04-08-2008 07:28:59  
Well Mr. Uninformed, I shoot them and shove them down their hole, they do much fiscal damage to farm equipment. As far as taste, I'll give you all you want and you can let me know!



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mjbrown

04-08-2008 10:28:20




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to greygoat, 04-08-2008 07:28:59  
I too shoot woodchucks. They are destructive on farms. I do not eat them and I do shoot them for the fun of it. I leave them for the coyotes to eat. If you hunt game that you eat you too are shooting them for the fun of it. You don't need to eat game. It's YOUR justification shooting animals.



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fergienewbee

04-08-2008 05:14:52




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
In the same boat. We have a powerline that splits our 80. Kids seem to think it's set up for them to run quads and snowmobiles. People think because Consumers Power owns the land it's public. Have had guys turkey hunting 100 yards behind the house, guys almost in the back yard on quads, etc. A couple of girls ride horses on the powerline and then follow trails through my brother-in-laws woods. I leased the land from the power company. $17.50 per year for about six acres or so. I'm also putting up a gated fence. We bought our land to enjoy the country, not for everyone else's recreation.

Family members can be just as bad. My brother-in-law cut shooting lanes and left 100s of punji stakes because he didn't cut them close to the ground. Cut limbs out of our oak for the same reason. Nephew spread bait all around for deer hunting. Neither hunt there any more.

Larry

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JoshuaGA

04-07-2008 18:03:12




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
We had a subdivision built near our place. We live on a dirt road so no real traffic concerns, but had a couple think they could run their 4 wheelers up and down our road and jump them on our terraces and through a ditch driveway I used to use for feeding cows and had to quit, but anyway, went to check cows and caught a group. Needless to say, I blessed them out and made darn sure if I caught them again, they would be looking down the barrel of a shotgun. Thank God our sherrif increased their patrols, fairly well stopped that. On a positive note, I saw a few the other day that was making the most of our road and picking up aluminum cans out of the ditch.

JoshuaGA

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37chief

04-07-2008 17:56:35




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
When Dad was farming, people would just go into his hay field and shoot doves like the owned the land. One time Dad caught a woman in his bean field picking Lima beans. Just recently someone picked a bunch of tangreens off out tree. If they would just ask we would give them away. Some people have no class, or ethics. Stan



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jose bagge

04-07-2008 17:54:09




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Billy NY is dead on right, this joannie-come-lately is setting herself up to be the local civics leader, was probably the head of her condo board before and probably the neighborhood HOA pain-in-the-a$$ as well. You've got to undermine her at every damn turn, for the sake of the men in the neighborhood and mankind in general.
Post the property, and then invite all of your freinds over for an afternoon of target parctice.Since you're zoned Ag, you should be able to do this "by right". When she tresspasses, call the police and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.She won't hold any truck in local politics with that on her head- and she'll be marked down by the local police as a potential trouble maker.
Find out what church most of these newcomers are going to, and get the Youth Pastor to set up a trip for the kids to your place. Hayride, cookout, the whole deal- to tune the kids in to the country "goodlife". Then, mention to the pastor and every parent within earshot that you've had a problem with someone, and call her out by name. First, you'll probably confirm that she's a pain for all...second, they'll get the word to her that you've got her number.
Skin this cat and most of your future troubles will be over. It's always one loud mouth agitator
that starts it up...

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rrlund

04-07-2008 16:12:50




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Want sweet revenge? Get yourself on your Township Board of Review and when they come in to b!tch about their taxes,smile nicely and say "remember me?" Revenge is SOOOO sweet.



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Coffee Helps

04-07-2008 15:11:19




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I know where just about every comment so far posted is coming from. Have had to pick up the beer cans (on a relative's land), had morels picked without permission- all that stuff. Someone telling me my Father's Goldens had to be on a leash! It seems helpful to stay calm about it if possible and look for the GOOD in other people.



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Alex.C

04-07-2008 14:16:06




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
We got that problem as well.I was hunting squirrels and I turned around and there is a whole family yelling at me. Now in Texas we have a law called the castle law which is a law that says that you have a right to protect you're land/property(basically if you fell threatened by a person on your land you have the rights to use deadly force) . I told them that I would exercise that right if they didn't leave fast. I think a loaded 12 gage has a lot of negotiation power. Now I didn't pull the trigger but I told the husband if he assaulted me I would shoot and told them to leave and if I saw them on our land again he11 would brake lose. they left the land real fast.

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jlmtractor

04-07-2008 13:56:36




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I know what you mean had a couple deer stands and corn piles out on the backside of the property so I go out one evening during the season and find some a$$hole sitting in the stand. man that pisses me off. there are times when I accept trespassing like this past weekend we cut the hundred plus trees that had fell on the very well established trail around the pond. we just did it we all use the pond and take care of it and the owner doesnt mind when we do work to the pond as long as we dont trash it

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paridgerunner

04-07-2008 11:33:55




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Wait till the wind is right and spread some liquid manure, see if that offends her.



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balatonm

04-07-2008 10:22:35




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I live in a small town, but I can still shoot rabbits in my backyard or clean my gun on the front porch facing the street while kids and there parents walk by, and no budy gets afened by it.



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Sam from WA

04-07-2008 08:56:25




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I can be out in my backyard shooting rabbits, starlings, and other rodents. Not ten minutes after I fire the first round, the phone rings. It"s our neighbor, whose a goat farmer. She"s always makin a big fuss about our trucks and tractors makin a mess on the road and such. My dad is a potato farmer, so its somewhat hard to avoid mud in the road. Luckily, we don"t have a subdivision behind the farm, but its gettin there. I had to rescue our other neighboring "farmer" after he got his tractor stuck in the mud AND ran out of diesel. It just bugs me that people who don"t belong on farmland are on farmland and taking away our recreation and profits.

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Billy NY

04-07-2008 08:48:25




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Post the place and send a blanket letter to the new neighbors subdivision, explaining that the place is privately owned, tresspassing will not be tolerated, this gets into a whole darned ball of wax, I'm dealing with it for years over here too, doing my best and it's been working, but people are such pains in the @ss when it comes to this. Springtime, is the worst, always more people to deal with.

A neighbor like that is usually on the rise to become a self appointed activist, you definitely have to outsmart them, maintain a presence and exploit whatever laws, rights you have in your state, don't do anything stupid, these things always escalate.

If any new developments are proposed nearby, go to the planning board meetings and put them on notice your concerns about tresspassers, put the developer on notice and cite any laws that are applicable, I did that here and continue to do it, so that when people do continue to tresspass, all concerned parties have been warned in adavance. We have new developments nearby on the horizon and I have been at every meeting putting them on notice, the place is posted and that the new condo dwellers should be instructed to heed the posted signs, and stay out, or they will deal with me, I'm not going anywhere, so please let the place be.


In my neighborhood, I'm one of the few remaining people from the old block in a manner of speaking, most have passed on, all the homes have been turned over now, and with that is neighbors that want to take over, change everything and give no respect for you, even though you have been at the place 40+ years. They dump yard trash over the line on our place, have too many cars and clog my road up cause they can't fit em in the driveway, block me from emergency services along with my 3 close neigbors at times, and they have a fleet of ATV's, want to use the place, what a real pain some have been, the old neighbors were not like this.

I have one neighbor who has been here just as long, the nicest people you'll ever meet, respectful, he's got great grandkids already, nice shop, always tinkering on small engines, classic cars, some really nice cars came out of that shop ( owned a business in small engine powered tools chainsaws and the like, sold it and works part time there still ) also keeps his place extremely immaculate. He got a deal on one of those 2 seater ATV utility whatever they are. He asked permission to take his granddaughter for a ride down to the big pond, to look at the geese, ducks and otters, it was a pleasure to let him come over, he even trimmed the branches on the trail. It seems people his/ my parents age are very polite, don't bother others and ask permission, always friendly, others just barge right in.

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LEH

04-07-2008 08:37:53




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I Hope their house gets repoed! These Azz Holes are everywhere that a subdivision pops up. They must all be cut from the same material because they have about the same IQ. No wonder the developers have such an easy time selling their junk homes to these fools. You can't talk to them because the media has told them that animals are people and the internal combustion engine is bad and farmers are men who rip off mother earth. If you don't live like they do you are a bad person. You must drive a jiponeez car, have 2 1/2 kids, play all the sports, be a collage grad.and be up to you eye balls in monthly payments, and if the bottom falls out, someone must do something to bail them out. Just shoot over their heads next time, I do.

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TxFarmallFan

04-07-2008 08:23:09




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
Have had the same problem on our place. Caught a woman and her kids walking around, asked them who gave them permission, she said she didnt need it. I quickly informed her that she did need it, but would not be getting it. Some people are just damn stupid. Think the rules dont apply to them.



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Nancy Howell

04-07-2008 08:10:12




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Mark W., 04-07-2008 07:25:15  
I hear you. Even if you had no trespassing signs up, these folks would ignore you. And, yes, if you were walking around her yard, she would get upset. It might be interesting to see what happens when the wind blows that direction and maybe carries the sweet smell of livestock?

We had to put a chain up across the drive to our farm and it has a no trespassing sign. Came in one eve, dropped the chain, drove to the house and found a note from someone stuck to the BACK door. They left a phone #, good thing it was disconnected.

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paul sebek

04-07-2008 09:13:11




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 Re: Good country gone city in reply to Nancy Howell, 04-07-2008 08:10:12  
I know the feeling. It took two years to find and clean out all the liter and beer cans. You wouldn't believe some of the foolish places people will throw things. I had no trespassing signs up and still about a week ago I got up and walked outside and wouldn't you know a couple of 2008 beer cans 50 yards into the driveway and 30 more yards in to the old cattle yard. There had been no wind for days and no storms. Unless the best quarterback in the world can throw empty beer cans 100+ yards over my house to that section of the drive and more than one hundred to the cattle yard I had visitors. To top it all off, I live here! You can't miss the fact the place is occupied, yard light(power obviously on), house painted, yard clean and manicured. I even had been outside a couple of times that night(dog). Maybe an active defense system to deter those pesky midnight human visitors(ok arrogant drunks) is called for.

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