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CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant...

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Bob

04-30-2008 15:56:48




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I bought a small item on ebay for $4.99.

In the auction description, the seller stated "shipping insurance OPTIONAL for $1.50".

When I went to "checkout", the $1.50 for insurance was MANDATORY... no way out of it.

NO really big deal, but I don't care to pay almost 40% of the item's value for shipping insurance!

I understand WHY the seller pushes insurance to provide tracking and get them "off the hook" for lost or damaged mail.

HOWEVER, the auction clearly stated insurance was optional. I emailed the seller. NO reply... I emailed ebay... you would think this would be a clear-cut case of fraud, and they would back me up. HECK NO! Here's ebay's reply...
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Hello,

Thank you for writing to eBay regarding Item number XXXXX XXXXX . We have reviewed the information that you provided. This automatically generated message has been sent to you so we can help you as quickly as possible.

The vast majority of transactions on eBay end successfully. However, when problems arise, we recommend that buyers take the following actions
to resolve the situation (details about each are included below):

- Talk to the seller - Report the seller to PayPal (up to 45 days from the end of the listing)
- File an Item Not Received or Significantly Not As Described dispute (10-60 days from the date the listing ended)

** Talk to the Seller

Often, these situations can be resolved with a friendly conversation. We
recommend that you contact the seller by phone if you haven't already done so. To request the seller's email address and phone number, please follow these steps:

1. Click the "Advanced Search" link in the top right-hand corner of the eBay Home page. 2. Click the "Find Contact Information" link on the left side of the page. 3. Enter the Item number in the space provided. (You can find it in My eBay.)
4. Click the "Search" button.

We'll send you an email with the seller's contact information. At the same time, we'll also send the seller your contact information. ** Report the Seller to PayPal (45-day time limit)

eBay and PayPal work together closely to help buyers resolve problems quickly and effectively. Because you paid through PayPal, you can file a
claim with them if talking with the seller fails to resolve the situation. Claims must be filed within *45 days* of payment.

For more information or to open a dispute, go to:Link


Click>Link the "PayPal Buyer Protection" link.

If more than 45 days have passed since you paid, you won't be able to file a Buyer Protection claim with PayPal. However, we still encourage you to report this member to PayPal. You can then file an Item Not Received or Significantly Not As Described dispute on eBay.

** File an Item Not Received or Significantly Not As Described Dispute (60-day time limit)

If the seller fails to send you either the item or a refund, and the item isn't covered by PayPal, you can file an Item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described dispute. You can do this at any time up to *60 days* from the end of the listing. (Although, because you paid with PayPal, you'll be directed to file a claim with PayPal if you file before 45 days have passed.)

For more information or to open a dispute, go to: Link

We>Link will investigate your complaint and take appropriate action. However,
under the eBay Privacy Policy, we can't discuss the results of our investigation or any action we take.

We hope that this email has addressed your concerns. If not, please reply to this message and we will pursue the matter further. We are committed to working with you to protect your safety and help you succeed on eBay.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety

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WHAT a crock!

There is only 45 days to file a complaint HOWEVER I can't file one yet! You have to wait 10 days to actually FILE a complaint, yet after 45 days you can't file at all!

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MPK

04-30-2008 20:01:36




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 Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Bob, 04-30-2008 15:56:48  
I bought a couple items on E-bay that I never recieved and because I paid for it through Pay-Pal I filed a complaint through Pay-Pal after the 10 day waiting period and they got me my money back in about a week. This was around an 80 dollar Item each time. I found Pay-Pal very reliable.



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cowman1

04-30-2008 19:56:52




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 This may make you feel better Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Bob, 04-30-2008 15:56:48  

It may not do much good but will make you feel better. File a report on the listed site. It will stay up as long as the site lasts. One report for the seller one on Epaly.

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Jiles

04-30-2008 19:29:30




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 Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Bob, 04-30-2008 15:56:48  
I have bought many items on ebay. Most have been pleasant but I can see every day that they are changing their rules, more often then our government! No way you can talk to someone only automated information. Might as well be talking to your tractor! Many more changes and I will no longer use.



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dave guest

04-30-2008 19:14:48




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 Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Bob, 04-30-2008 15:56:48  
Glad its only a little sting. What if this mandatory thing was hundred bucks.



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Jerry Coulter

04-30-2008 16:27:58




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 Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Bob, 04-30-2008 15:56:48  
This could be a systemic problem which should be brought to the attention of the Assistant Attorney General in your state of residence. You would need to submit documentation to support your complaint. Like a print copy of the offer screen, a copy of the checkout screen, and copy of E-Bay's response. Write a cover letter explaining what each document means because they need something easy to follow.

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rustyj

05-03-2008 19:28:16




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 Re: CAUTION!!! OT ebay rant... in reply to Jerry Coulter, 04-30-2008 16:27:58  
And, thats just why i never got into E-bay to buy or sell anything! Too much folderol, rigamarole, and BS! Rustyj



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