Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Discussion Forum

How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes?

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Truck

07-06-2000 19:41:33




Report to Moderator

I got another 40 or so yards of fill today, and in between truckloads did some rough grading with the Allis M..Finally I have learned how to efficiently operate the hand clutch and the brakes and clutches, so I can get the dozer where I want it placed, but....What's the trick to making the fill level without a hundred passes over it? I can get the 6 yard piles knocked down in about three passes but achieving the final grade without holes and bumps is pretty tricky. I'm sure practice will help, but I'll listen to any hints from the experts.(I was used to a back blade on a Ford 3000 before this, and york raking for final exact level.) Backdragging helps some, but if I use the float position, it will dig in too deep, and the blade action is a little too slow to keep going up-down. Hold works pretty good if I get it just at the right level and haven't got any bumps to go over...Thanks for any help!

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
BART

07-13-2000 12:34:54




Report to Moderator
 Re: How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes? in reply to Truck, 07-06-2000 19:41:33  
ONE OF THE KEYS TO RUNNING A DOZER IS GETTING THE FEEL OF THE MACHINE. eVERY AMCHINE IS DIFFERENT. MY COMAPNY HAS 37 DOZERS AND NOT A ONE IS THE SAME. ONE OF THE EASIEST WAS TO TELL IF YOU ARE PUSHING LEVEL IS TO FEEL IF THE MACHINE IS LEVEL. THE EASIEST WAY I HAVE FOUND TO DO THIS IS TO FEEL THE ANGLE OF THE DOZER THRU YOUR HIPS AND THIGHS. ONCE YOU GET A LEVEL ARE STARTED KEEP GOING WITH IT EVEN IF IT IS TO HIGH OR LOW. TEHN COME BACK AND LOWER IT OR WORK THE EXCESS MATERIAL BACK ACROSS IT. ANOTHER SUGGESTION IS TO WATCH SOMEONE ELSE RUN THE DOZER. SEE HOW MUCH MATERIAL THEY ARE ACTUALLY PUSHING WHEN THE BLADE IS A DIFFERENT HIEGHTS. BUT MOST OF ALL IT TAKES PRACTICE.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
skipdig

07-09-2000 12:35:52




Report to Moderator
 Re: How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes? in reply to Truck, 07-06-2000 19:41:33  
Remember that your working with a bulldozer and not a motor grader. It's kinda like doin door trim with a five pound sledgehammer. are you trying to get you fill level, or smooth? The guy that said different angles was on the right track. Also, use as low a gear and as high an rpm to keep your hydraulic speed up. Keep your blade full, don't chase the dinky piles: 1-2-3" of stuff. get it close is close, make sure it will drain if it rains, (you CAN'T grade mud) then use your wheel tractor to drag it or buy the family all their own personal hand rakes and present them to 'em on birthdays and christmas and the like. Allways remember that a bulldozer was designed to push. You can do some backblade smoothing of the surface after you have placed your material where you want it, but your not going to get much WORK done in reverse. Wear your earplugs, take your lunch----- Skip

Oh, I forgot, when you do get your area shaped and graded about the way you want, work your way out of it by just using the steering clutches, w/o any hard turns in the middle. Depending on the material your are working, a person can tear up the area they just finished by making hard braking turns in it.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bill

07-07-2000 15:07:25




Report to Moderator
 Re: How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes? in reply to Truck, 07-06-2000 19:41:33  
Practice Practice. I am just now starting to get fair with a blade but I am lousy with a bucket. One thing I did that seemed to help in addition to the earlier advice is to practice the moves in my head, Up down ect. Like a mental drill. Then I realised that listening to engine and watching the tracks was a good indication of when I was at max cut and max push. I also realised the small passes were better than one large pass. You work the machine less hard and you do not make as big a hole to back fill when get done. When I got done There was some back fill. I just put some dirt under the blade and go backwards with it and raise it up just about as I hit front mid tracks so the the dirt will go up and fill the hole.

I will tell you at first it was fustrating and my father-in-law thought there was no hope. Now I can go into the cattle lots etc. and make them look good again and push up where the hogs get into the fence and he no longer shakes his head and has to go out and fix it after I have gone back home.

Good luck Truck

wk

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
H MN

07-07-2000 09:43:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes? in reply to Truck, 07-06-2000 19:41:33  
Truck: Practice and more pratice.. It takes a good eye to see what needs to be done. A hint might be to take long steady passes over the area at different angles. Try 45 degree or 90 degree criss-cross passes. Try to not let compaction in small areas bother the long passes. (Ya can stop this method to add or take away in small areas from time to time if ya see a problem developing.) Hope this sparks a few ideas to try..Harvey..looooo ong passes..at different angles

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
possum

08-23-2000 18:16:41




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: How do you make fill LEVEL in the least number of passes? in reply to H MN, 07-07-2000 09:43:11  
Load your blade as full as you can. As you "lose out" the fill and begin to lose control, start a gradual turn - especially if you have a short-track machine. It's amazing what a little turn will do for your stability.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy