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Nick White

01-20-2001 14:28:10




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I am posting here as this is the closest I could find, and I will probably need to come back here soon. I am looking at buying an Allis-Chalmers HD11EP, or HD16DP (?)in the near future.

Hoiwever my question at the moment is about rakes. The rakes that are with the machines I have looked at are thick-tyned, with a large bar acrsoo them about a foot or so up the tynes. This would not suit deep raking for roots, smaller rocks etc, AFAICS. I have seen work done with traxcavators, which had rakes more able to comb down to a couple of feet at least.

Is it possible to get the same effect with a dozer?

Any advice appreciated.

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ltf in nc

01-21-2001 19:27:38




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
Like the other post, I do not understand why you want to clean up so deep. I get the main trash cleaned up on the surface and then I cut the remaining roots by pulling a big cutting disc (bog) and a chain type harrow, then plant. In a couple of years the remaining debris has rotted and you have a clean field.



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ltf in nc

01-21-2001 19:25:40




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
Like the other post, I do not understand why you want to clean up so deep. I get the main trash cleaned up on the surface and then I cut the remaining roots by pulling a big cutting disc (bog) and a chain type harrow, then plant. In a couple of years the remaining debris has rotted and you have a clean field.



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Canadian Cowboy

01-21-2001 11:23:21




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
the Brush rakes are made tough because your are usualy rooting out stumps and limbs. A cat isn't the greatest at realy cleaning up the small twigs and chunks of log that slip between the rake's teeth.

We have the same problem, my solution is simple. we do what we can with thee cat, cleaning up limbs and leveling out the dirt. After ward Im going to go over the area with an old dump style horse hay rake. Weld all the teeth to a solid flat bar half way up the teeth. and one half way from the botton and the piece you just added. Then get an old hydrolic cylinder that works, attach it to the rake and the frame. Hook up your tractor and start picking up small limbs and wood.

land clearing on the cheap.

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Nick White

01-21-2001 13:06:30




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 Re: Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Canadian Cowboy, 01-21-2001 11:23:21  
OK. Thanks. I actually have a rake like that on my tractor (or are you meaning the dozer here?). But really it will only allow me to get stuff just on or under the surface because the _average_ wheeled machine will not have enough traction to dig deeper. Some years back I had some work done here and they were raking stuff up from 2' under the ground after really ripping with large ripper tynes on the dozer, then raking using a smaller tracked machine, 12 tonne traxcavator.

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Canadian Cowboy

01-21-2001 15:56:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-21-2001 13:06:30  
Im refering to an old horse drawn hay rake pulled behind a tractor to get rid of surface debris.

Why do you need to dig small roots out from two feet in the ground??? Weve only ever dug down as deep as the brush rake on the cat will go,one foot into the ground, Nothing grows back except weeds, no trees's or shrubs.

I don't quite follow u, What are u intending to do withthe land after its cleared??

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Canadian Cowboy

01-21-2001 11:23:13




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
the Brush rakes are made tough because your are usualy rooting out stumps and limbs. A cat isn't the greatest at realy cleaning up the small twigs and chunks of log that slip between the rake's teeth.

We have the same problem, my solution is simple. we do what we can with thee cat, cleaning up limbs and leveling out the dirt. After ward Im going to go over the area with an old dump style horse hay rake. Weld all the teeth to a solid flat bar half way up the teeth. and one half way from the botton and the piece you just added. Then get an old hydrolic cylinder that works, attach it to the rake and the frame. Hook up your tractor and start picking up small limbs and wood.

land clearing on the cheap.

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Canadian Cowboy

01-21-2001 11:23:09




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
the Brush rakes are made tough because your are usualy rooting out stumps and limbs. A cat isn't the greatest at realy cleaning up the small twigs and chunks of log that slip between the rake's teeth.

We have the same problem, my solution is simple. we do what we can with thee cat, cleaning up limbs and leveling out the dirt. After ward Im going to go over the area with an old dump style horse hay rake. Weld all the teeth to a solid flat bar half way up the teeth. and one half way from the botton and the piece you just added. Then get an old hydrolic cylinder that works, attach it to the rake and the frame. Hook up your tractor and start picking up small limbs and wood.

land clearing on the cheap.

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Quince

01-20-2001 18:54:26




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
I don't see why not, it just won't be as strong if you happen to snag something.



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Quince

01-20-2001 18:54:05




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
I don't see why not, it just won't be as strong if you happen to snag something.



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Nick White

01-21-2001 04:52:02




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 Re: Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Quince, 01-20-2001 18:54:05  
Thanks for the reply (replies)

When you say not as strong do you mean the rake itself (lighter build to allow deep raking) or the actual dozer's setup. I think you mean the rake, but I am not sure.

I am just puzzled, as it seems to be "not done"....

TIA



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Quince

01-21-2001 12:32:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-21-2001 04:52:02  
The teeth on the rake wouldn't be supported as close to the ends as they would be if the cross brace was only one foot from the ends of the teeth. That is a pretty good idea to use an old dump rake to get the finer pieces, I don't think a hydralic cylinder is all that necessary, as they had a mechanical trip to raise the teeth.



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Nick White

01-21-2001 13:01:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Quince, 01-21-2001 12:32:14  
Thanks Quince. I thought that's what you meant.

I am not sure about the other rake idea. I am going to ask.
Thanks again mate.



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Quince

01-20-2001 18:53:52




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 Re: Dozers and rakes in reply to Nick White, 01-20-2001 14:28:10  
I don't see why not, it just won't be as strong if you happen to snag something.



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