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Hydrostatic transmissions and braking

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Paul (QC)

11-20-2002 11:50:15




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I've been reading that hydrostatic transmissions have a
"dynamic braking" aspect that sort of foregoes the need for normal brakes, like in a car.

I've seen this design in skidders, small and huge loaders,
lawnmowers and stuff like that. They seem to all have an additional "parking brake" as, for instance on my machine
a big rod that slides into the chain sprockets on either side and blocks them, when I lift the seat bar. You don't apply this sort of brake while you're moving.

Recent machines have a similar setup but the parking brake
is retracted hydraulically and will re-engage automatically
on loss of pressure. For those of us with seatbar-operated
parking brakes, lifting the seat bar at the right moment
could be a very important safety manoeuver ! There was a
short mention to this effect in the operator's manual.

Which brings me to my question : I'd be interested in hearing
from those who have experienced (and survived :-) the loss of
hydraulic pressure to a piston pump-driven drivetrain. How does the machine behave ?

I know that normal braking is done by the transmission, the machine coming to rest if the controls are centered or, more
quickly, if reversed. I also notice that my machine will creep slightly forward in neutral if I'm on a hill.

I'm wondering if this dynamic braking provided by the hydrostatic transmission also works after losing pressure (for instance after the engine stalls or a hose ruptures or something) ? Does a machine come to a halt by itself or is it in a free-wheeling condition ? Can you effect any kind of steering or is the game over ?

Just wondering,

Paul

PS for really nice animations of pumps in action
see>Link
and>Link http://www.bru-hyd.com/getriebm.e.htm

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Jonathan

11-20-2002 14:02:58




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 Re: Hydrostatic transmissions and braking in reply to Paul (QC), 11-20-2002 11:50:15  
Not sure exactly what you're looking for ...but.....if a line were to blow in a hydrostatic system , and the fluid supplying the drive motor was lost then there would be no dynamic braking...It would freewheel. Thats why there is a secondary park brake . Also controls minor movement if the neutral position is not quite "right" ...hence the creeping in neutral...
Usually , the park/emergency brake configuration is comprised of a brake element actuated by mechanical springs and released by hydraulic pressure. So if there is a pressure loss or an engine stall , then the park brake applies due to a lack of disengagement pressure. Thats why its best to wear a seat belt in machines equipped with this sort of setup , as when it applies , it tends to be abrupt. Having your face pop out a windshield will ruin the day.

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