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Help! Crack in Cylinder Wall

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Greg Strickland

01-13-2003 19:33:50




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I recently bought a TD-9 loader from a local farmer. It had been parked for several years with the engine siezed. The farmer told me that there was a hole in the exhaust stack and water got on top of the pistons and siezed the engine. I took the head off and had it rebuilt. All but one of the pistons were salvageable, but I had to get new sleeves since it was really rusty and siezed tight. I was a little leary when I took the pan off and found antifreeze in the oil, not just straight water like I had expected. I thought that it was a blown head gasket, allowing water to leak into the pan that way. Two of the pistons had very little water on top and looked to be in very good condition, while the other two were full of water and rust, one severely so. I took the sleeves out and noticed that the most severly rusted piston had a crack in the cylinder wall under the sleeve. I don't know a whole lot about this engine, but I imagine this explains the antifreeze in the pan! I guess it leaked through the crack and seeped past the sleeve into the crankcase. To make a long story short, I have had different people tell me all sorts of different things, but I mainly want to know if I can just smooth up the hairline crack in the cylinder, install a new sleeve and get away with this as long as I put a little bit of block seal in the engine to help seal up the crack to possibly prevent it from seeping back into the crankcase. The crack doesn't extend all the way to the top or the bottom, but is just in the center part of the cylinder wall. Any ideas out there?

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hector gemme

02-10-2005 11:26:53




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 Re: Help! Crack in Cylinder Wall in reply to Greg Strickland, 01-13-2003 19:33:50  
HI I HAVE SOME USE TD9 PARTS



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another Lee

01-16-2003 20:10:42




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 Re: Help! Crack in Cylinder Wall in reply to Greg Strickland, 01-13-2003 19:33:50  
My FFA chapter restored an M last year and we had the same problem. We sent it to the local engine shop. What they did was bore out the block, then epoxy a new sleeve in so that the sleeves bore was the original bore of the block. We then put a stock sleeve into that. It fixed the crack and no leaks to date, and its had the opportunity to leak.



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Dennis Benson

01-15-2003 21:59:27




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 Re: Help! Crack in Cylinder Wall in reply to Greg Strickland, 01-13-2003 19:33:50  
I don't remember the engine, whether it has replaceable sleeves, or if it has cast in place cylinders. If it has cast in cylinders, the crack will have to be stopped from growing by drilling and plugging the ends of the crack, then boring the cylinder to have a replacement cylinder installed. The sleeve will then seal the cylinder from leaking. If it has a replaceable wet sleeve in the cylinder you should be able to get one, either new or used to replace it.

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lee

01-14-2003 14:38:11




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 Re: Help! Crack in Cylinder Wall in reply to Greg Strickland, 01-13-2003 19:33:50  
Hi if it excessible to weld you would need to v out the crack & use a disimiler cast rod as some old casts weld lovely & others can become poras the rods are expencive but are well worth it .
welding would be advisible as dew to the temp change it would expand & could cause more probs.
we have done a few old & new engine & gear boxes weve used two pac resin on outer welds after it s ground back to seal & all so to hide the repair
or chemical metal as a finsh stopper not the repair. I hope you sort your problem bye

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